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What does any of that have to do with Judge Jackson?

We would have more Judge Jacksons on the court if the Dem Senate had played hardball with Republican Presidents. And taking Thomas out of circulation in 1991 would have changed the Bush v Gore decision in 2000, which would have meant President Al Gore seating even more Judge Jacksons in his subsequent terms.

No Thomas means no Bush Jr. No Bush Jr means no gerrymandering greenlit by Ashcroft's DOJ. Which would have promised more state level liberal courts in places like Texas and Wisconsin (ie, more state court Judge Jacksons). Which would have curbed the rise of white nationalism following Obama's election in 2008. No GOP capture of Florida through mass disenfranchisement of black voters. No extended legacy of GOP rule in Georgia, for the same reasons. No War on Immigration in Arizona and Colorado and Texas, forcing those states farther and farther to the right. All of which would have precluded a Trump presidency in 2016.

No Trump means we don't have to worry about who he'd pick for SCOTUS.

That is still not an explanation for why judge Jackson would be the sort of SCOTUS judge Trump would pick if both parties are the same.

Its an explanation for why a judge approved by Joe Biden is going to give us another Trump presidency.

I didn't ask for that explanation.

If you aren't able to explain why Trump would pick a justice like Jackson when both parties are the same, just say so.

I didn’t ask for that explanation.

Because you don't want Joe Biden carrying any culpability for the current 6-3 Conservative Majority.

We've got multiple Republican SCOTUS nominees who took office on his watch. We know what that leads to, because we know the outcome of Bush v Gore. We know what eight years of Bush did to the country and how it led directly to the election of Trump.

So why would four more years of Biden - a man who gave us the courts that gave us Bush and Trump - produce a majority of Judge Jacksons? He appears far better at seating judges like Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, and Alito.

Why can't you just admit you won't give me the explanation I asked for a long time ago?

Why would I want a President who put Thomas on the bench?

Not relevant to what I asked. If you can't answer what I asked, I'm not going to talk to you about anything else, sorry.

A Democrat who concedes to Republican threats will be as likely to put a guy like Thomas up as Trump would. We got lucky with Jackson, but Biden's clearly in a state of deterioration. Very likely we end up with him compromising us down to another Thomas or ACB in his second term, as he and his friends on the Judiciary committee are known to do.

I wish you would just admit you can't answer what I asked.

For the very last time and please just answer and stop moving the goalposts: If the parties are the same, why would Trump have chosen Jackson as a SCOTUS justice?

If the parties are the same, why would Trump have chosen Jackson as a SCOTUS justice?

Ask Bush Sr why he picked David Souter. I have no idea why he'd pick a justice like Jackson, but conservatives picking liberal judges has been known to happen.

All I know is that - between Biden Democrats and Trump Republicans - we've had a stacked conservative court despite Democrats holding the Presidency for twice as long. This would suggest that both parties endorse a conservative majority on the courts.

I have no idea why he’d pick a justice like Jackson

If the parties were both the same, you would have an idea since it would be the same reason Biden did it. But you can't say that since you know Trump would not pick a left-wing black woman for a justice as that is absolutely absurd.

So thank you for proving my point.

If the parties were both the same, you would have an idea

That's nonsense. Can you explain how Bush Sr picked both Souter and Thomas? He's the same guy, so explaining the gulf between the candidates should be easy.

But you can’t say that since you know Trump would not pick a left-wing black woman

Bush Jr picked liberal feminist Harriet Myers less than a month before he switched to rabid conservative fanatic Samuel Alito. Myers was shot down by Biden's judiciary committee. Can you explain that?

Can you explain the gulf between Merrick Garland and Sonya Sotomayer? Both Obama nominees. How about the distance between Sandra Day O'Conner and Robert Bork? Both Reagan nominees.

You don't know your judicial history. You certainly don't know how Trump or Biden make political decisions.

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