You're right, I wanted an answer to my question and instead you rephrased my question, which avoided my actual point, and then only kind of answered that question.
Let me try to rephrase to get to my point: this shop has security cameras, insurance, and other reasonable protective and preventative methods, they get robbed (which still result in a financial hit). Are they victims?
Another user to the pile here to say that their response fully answered your question.
I don't see it. So please explain. Can they be a victim?
Sorry, you're going to have to keep looking. Somehow, everyone else got the answer to your question.
It's obvious who is confident in defending their position and who is not.
you rephrased my question
No I didn't.
this shop has security cameras, insurance, and other reasonable protective and preventative methods, they get robbed (which still result in a financial hit). Are they victims?
Yes, just like if a company properly offboards their employees, they would be victims if a disgruntled employee hacked them in retaliation.
But that's not what happened. This "shop" doesn't have locks on the doors. It's hard to feel bad for them when they left the door wide open.
corporations are not people, they are soulless, for-profit enterprises that will, for damn sure, abuse and exploit any one and any thing they can in the name of profit. They don’t get the defense of “victim blaming”.
So you agree with me that corporations can be victims, which is what I was originally responding to and you originally challenged.
You're now saying that if proper precautions are not taken, you can't be considered a victim.
This is classic victim blaming, which is my point. If I leave my wallet on the table at a bar and someone steals it, despite me being an idiot I'm still the victim of a crime. It's not my fault, it's the fault of the person who stole it.
Just like with the company in the OP, they are idiots for not taking proper precautions against malicious actors, but it's still the fault of the malicious actor.
Corporations can't be victims of victim blaming
So you agree that they can be victims of victim blaming
That user that tagged you as "purposeful idiot" was fucking spot on.
Make up quotes, call me an idiot based on them not making any sense. Classic.
You're right, I wanted an answer to my question and instead you rephrased my question, which avoided my actual point, and then only kind of answered that question.
Let me try to rephrase to get to my point: this shop has security cameras, insurance, and other reasonable protective and preventative methods, they get robbed (which still result in a financial hit). Are they victims?
Another user to the pile here to say that their response fully answered your question.
I don't see it. So please explain. Can they be a victim?
Sorry, you're going to have to keep looking. Somehow, everyone else got the answer to your question.
It's obvious who is confident in defending their position and who is not.
No I didn't.
Yes, just like if a company properly offboards their employees, they would be victims if a disgruntled employee hacked them in retaliation.
But that's not what happened. This "shop" doesn't have locks on the doors. It's hard to feel bad for them when they left the door wide open.
So you agree with me that corporations can be victims, which is what I was originally responding to and you originally challenged.
You're now saying that if proper precautions are not taken, you can't be considered a victim.
This is classic victim blaming, which is my point. If I leave my wallet on the table at a bar and someone steals it, despite me being an idiot I'm still the victim of a crime. It's not my fault, it's the fault of the person who stole it.
Just like with the company in the OP, they are idiots for not taking proper precautions against malicious actors, but it's still the fault of the malicious actor.
That user that tagged you as "purposeful idiot" was fucking spot on.
Make up quotes, call me an idiot based on them not making any sense. Classic.
Wow, you're doing it again. Amazing.