Suggest me a secure chat platform for my family
I am searching for a selfhosted and secure (end to end encryption) chat platform for my family (5-20 users), possibly one i can host on a raspi.
Is matrix a good choice, or should i try something else?
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Matrix is fine but quite slow. Has excellent clients and is feature rich.
There's also an app called Circles that turns your Matrix chats into a social feed.
XMPP is fine but the available clients are outdated and ugly.
Session is also self-hostable and anonymous.
Not true about xmpp in general. There are modern clients out there.
Prove it
Just for reference, here are my favourites on each platform.
Each support modern XMPP extensions, interoperate very nicely with each other, and (at least in my opinion) look good!
https://gajim.org/post/2024-06-10-gajim-1.9.0-released/ looks great these days. Give it a try.
https://movim.eu is also a really nice looking modern webclient
Gajim looks like it runs on windows XP. Movim does not appear to be a client.
Lol, what? Did you download an old version or are you just trolling?
And of course Movim is a client, a web-client like I wrote.
I don't see anywhere to access a Movim web client, only to start your own server. Also no screenshots anywhere that shows what it looks like.
There are literally multiple big screenshots on the page I linked and a big join button that brings you to https://join.movim.eu where you can chose an instance.
I am not trying to join an instance. I'm trying to use a web client for an instance I already have.
There are no screenshots, only artist renderings.
There must be something wrong with your browser. There are multiple big screenshots in a slider on https://movim.eu
And the unrestricted instances on the join page can be used with any xmpp account, however I don't recommend it as servers running Prosody currently only support a subset of Movim's features.
Matrix is slow on large instances, but that's not the case here, especially if no federation is done.
And the issue with sluggishness is currently the main development focus with ElementX/matrixX that will become mainstream matrix soon. With that even the large instances are extremely fast.
Matrix is slow everywhere. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. Element X is also super slow. Waiting 5-10 secs for messages to appear every time I open the app. I know what I'm talking about.
And on which instance did you experience that?
All of them
Thanks for confirming that you're full of shit.
Because there are very very few Sliding Synch (which is the part of X that makes it faster) instances at the moment and only one that has a major userbase.....
Why would I lie about this?
I tried the sliding sync servers as well. Those were included in "all of them".