Isn't that a bit entitled? Reddit was a company who made money with their users, but Lemmy isn't run by a company, it's run by volunteers. Running a small server is one thing, but who is going to moderate content from 100'000s of users, content generated by an instance that doesn't even have any basic restrictions on it's userbase? What if a large group of people start spamming illegal shit? What if there is suddenly cp showing up on your server instance? Who is going to deal with that, what are the legal implications for that?
One might assume they quit their server, but they didn't.. They just temporarily disabled federation because they feel that they don't have the capabilities to moderate that many users.. You can still apply for a local account on their instance, you can still browse their content without an account..
EDIT: You can even still browse content from beehawk and comment on it, but comments made from lemmy.world will not be visible by beehawk.
@aski3252@nosut You can go back to reddit you know? Nobody is forgetting you here
Excuse me? I support the beehawk admin's decisions, it's a very sensible decision that I suspect other instances will have to seriously consider soon as well because moderation will be an important issue very soon.
My point is that the commenter I replied to and many users who are complaining about this decision, about how "it splits the community in two" and about how "this is classic reddit behaviour" are acting a bit entitled as they don't seem to be aware of the immense problems that come with moderation, especially when you do it as a hobby..
@aski3252 I understand after I read the reason why they defedersted. Up to them. I bet people will leave over there also because of that. They where told ehrnt hry come to lemmy that they can see all post and commryfeom every instant. S popular defederates.snd that makes people wonder. Admins have a lot of power. But also ok the flip side Reddit mods can ban people and make the sub private and no one can do anything about it.. I guess it's just life
They where told ehrnt hry come to lemmy that they can see all post and commryfeom every instant.
An important part of federation is that you can freely choose who you want to federate with and who not.
S popular defederates.snd that makes people wonder.
Why does it make people wonder when they did a great job explaining why they made their decision and even made a post warning people that they might have to defederate?
But also ok the flip side Reddit mods can ban people and make the sub private and no one can do anything about it…
And that's the entire point of the whole thing.. The entire point is that anyone can create a community that they can run however they want (as long as it doesn't impact other communities).. Moderation isn't a bad thing, it's a necessary thing.. Nobody wants illegal pornography and harmful material on their servers..
And beehawk is and always has been very open about them wanting to be a safe space community with strong moderation.. They openly state that their entire motivation for creating their community is to have much stronger moderation than in other social media sites..
Isn't that a bit entitled? Reddit was a company who made money with their users, but Lemmy isn't run by a company, it's run by volunteers. Running a small server is one thing, but who is going to moderate content from 100'000s of users, content generated by an instance that doesn't even have any basic restrictions on it's userbase? What if a large group of people start spamming illegal shit? What if there is suddenly cp showing up on your server instance? Who is going to deal with that, what are the legal implications for that?
One might assume they quit their server, but they didn't.. They just temporarily disabled federation because they feel that they don't have the capabilities to moderate that many users.. You can still apply for a local account on their instance, you can still browse their content without an account..
EDIT: You can even still browse content from beehawk and comment on it, but comments made from lemmy.world will not be visible by beehawk.
@aski3252 @nosut You can go back to reddit you know? Nobody is forgetting you here
Excuse me? I support the beehawk admin's decisions, it's a very sensible decision that I suspect other instances will have to seriously consider soon as well because moderation will be an important issue very soon.
My point is that the commenter I replied to and many users who are complaining about this decision, about how "it splits the community in two" and about how "this is classic reddit behaviour" are acting a bit entitled as they don't seem to be aware of the immense problems that come with moderation, especially when you do it as a hobby..
@aski3252 I understand after I read the reason why they defedersted. Up to them. I bet people will leave over there also because of that. They where told ehrnt hry come to lemmy that they can see all post and commryfeom every instant. S popular defederates.snd that makes people wonder. Admins have a lot of power. But also ok the flip side Reddit mods can ban people and make the sub private and no one can do anything about it.. I guess it's just life
An important part of federation is that you can freely choose who you want to federate with and who not.
Why does it make people wonder when they did a great job explaining why they made their decision and even made a post warning people that they might have to defederate?
And that's the entire point of the whole thing.. The entire point is that anyone can create a community that they can run however they want (as long as it doesn't impact other communities).. Moderation isn't a bad thing, it's a necessary thing.. Nobody wants illegal pornography and harmful material on their servers..
And beehawk is and always has been very open about them wanting to be a safe space community with strong moderation.. They openly state that their entire motivation for creating their community is to have much stronger moderation than in other social media sites..