Because Pandoras box is opened and there is no closing it. Criminals will get access to firearms even if they've all been banned. Gun control logic is like giving a bandaid to someone with cancer.
We need to fix the why, not the how of our violence issue.
We need to focus on social programs, single payer healthcare, our education system, prison and police reform, and ending the war on drugs. Just these things alone would drop our violence by 100xs what another useless gun control bill would do.
None of those things have anything to do with the type of violence or whether or not they know the victims.
So that really doesn't explain anything.
This was not about whether or not a gun control discussion is worth having. This is about the relevance of the type of gun violence and whether or not the murderer and the victim new each other. What difference does it make?
So what's your question then? Most gun violence is not random. Hell most violence is not random. That's what the public perceives though. Which causes the gun control issue to be heavily viewed as something its not. Hence the incessant need to act like another AWB would do anything to curb the violence. When in reality it would do absolutely jack shit, because the majority of gun deaths are via handguns.
I asked my question. You aren't answering it.
I will repeat it:
Why does the type of gun violence matter? Why does it matter whether or not they know the victims?
I don’t understand the relevance to the gun control discussion.
You have made your opinion that there should be absolutely no discussion of gun control known many times, so maybe you weren't the person I wanted an answer from. Especially when you weren't the one I asked.
Take your agenda elsewhere.
I did answer your question. It matters because it is used as a agenda to make the public feel like we have random mass shootings daily. It %100 matters.
This is why the GVA is bunk crap, because it twists the truth.
I've never said that there should be no discussion of gun control. I just point out how little logic is behind the gun control that's proposed, because it's not based in reality.
No. No you didn't. I also didn't ask you and I don't want your opinion because I know what your opinion is already.
I mean I did answer your question, you where just hoping for someone else to give you a different answer.
Correct, that's why I asked them and not you.
And they answered it, unlike your claim to have answered it.
They literally said the same thing I did.
They didn't, but go ahead and claim that.
This is a civil comment pointing out that squid has mod on several instances and likes to goad people into arguments and then ban them. Sorry for being uncivilized before <3
I have no idea why you think those two are the same answers. However, the bigger issue was your attempting to shut down conversation before it started with your initial reply to my question:
Because Pandoras box is opened and there is no closing it. Criminals will get access to firearms even if they’ve all been banned. Gun control logic is like giving a bandaid to someone with cancer.
We need to fix the why, not the how of our violence issue.
We need to focus on social programs, single payer healthcare, our education system, prison and police reform, and ending the war on drugs. Just these things alone would drop our violence by 100xs what another useless gun control bill would do.
That was a non-answer in response to my question:
Why does the type of gun violence matter? Why does it matter whether or not they know the victims?
I don’t understand the relevance to the gun control discussion.
What "we need to do" had nothing to do with what I asked, but it did attempt to shut down a conversation no one was having before it started.
I'm sure you'll have some sort of lame excuse for why what you said really did somehow answer that question that didn't ask about what we need to do or why something happened.
Because Pandoras box is opened and there is no closing it. Criminals will get access to firearms even if they've all been banned. Gun control logic is like giving a bandaid to someone with cancer.
We need to fix the why, not the how of our violence issue.
We need to focus on social programs, single payer healthcare, our education system, prison and police reform, and ending the war on drugs. Just these things alone would drop our violence by 100xs what another useless gun control bill would do.
None of those things have anything to do with the type of violence or whether or not they know the victims.
So that really doesn't explain anything.
This was not about whether or not a gun control discussion is worth having. This is about the relevance of the type of gun violence and whether or not the murderer and the victim new each other. What difference does it make?
So what's your question then? Most gun violence is not random. Hell most violence is not random. That's what the public perceives though. Which causes the gun control issue to be heavily viewed as something its not. Hence the incessant need to act like another AWB would do anything to curb the violence. When in reality it would do absolutely jack shit, because the majority of gun deaths are via handguns.
I asked my question. You aren't answering it.
I will repeat it:
You have made your opinion that there should be absolutely no discussion of gun control known many times, so maybe you weren't the person I wanted an answer from. Especially when you weren't the one I asked.
Take your agenda elsewhere.
I did answer your question. It matters because it is used as a agenda to make the public feel like we have random mass shootings daily. It %100 matters.
This is why the GVA is bunk crap, because it twists the truth.
I've never said that there should be no discussion of gun control. I just point out how little logic is behind the gun control that's proposed, because it's not based in reality.
No. No you didn't. I also didn't ask you and I don't want your opinion because I know what your opinion is already.
I mean I did answer your question, you where just hoping for someone else to give you a different answer.
Correct, that's why I asked them and not you.
And they answered it, unlike your claim to have answered it.
They literally said the same thing I did.
They didn't, but go ahead and claim that.
This is a civil comment pointing out that squid has mod on several instances and likes to goad people into arguments and then ban them. Sorry for being uncivilized before <3
Jeffw:
https://lemmy.world/comment/11037065
Me:
https://lemmy.world/comment/11038717
I have no idea why you think those two are the same answers. However, the bigger issue was your attempting to shut down conversation before it started with your initial reply to my question:
That was a non-answer in response to my question:
What "we need to do" had nothing to do with what I asked, but it did attempt to shut down a conversation no one was having before it started.
I'm sure you'll have some sort of lame excuse for why what you said really did somehow answer that question that didn't ask about what we need to do or why something happened.