yes because of your pfp, why else? who doesn't love columbo?
i'm not using anti-indigenous capitalist propaganda
attempting to reframe anything that's been said so far as such is clearly arguing in bad faith, and frankly, really weird
Why is it weird? Explain objectively, without appealing to the norms of the US system.
because acknowledging that the native american population has been beaten down by the state repeatedly and for centuries isn't anti-indigenous? because acknowledging that the native american population is a victim of systemic and at times systematic racism isn't anti-indigenous?
unless you would deny that they've been beaten down by the state repeatedly and for centuries?
Yes, they have. And therefore should be re-empowered ASAP. It is YOU who appears to be arguing that they are not up to the task, not me.
i'm saying they're not up to the task without significant support from some hypothetical party backing them up
i don't know what party you'd put in that position if not the current government, and at that point it seems like we're back to the start, no?
So you're saying they're not up to the task unless some [white majority party] supports them?
So again I say, YIKES
super weird that the abused aren't in a position of power, and that the abusers are
yeah, the party in power is majority white, and yeah that's because of historic racism, but that doesn't change the scenario that we're both looking at
Yeah so weird that you support white saviorism instead of returning control to indigenous groups.
It's almost like you're a liberal centrist.
what's your plan for returning power to indigenous people without involving a group that's currently in power (and therefore predominantly white, since racism exists), without having right wing populists use the power vacuum to seize control?
Just return it now. You think only white people are good enough to save them?
Racist.
again, a group of people that's been oppressed to the degree native americans have is not in a position to govern a nation like america
do you deny the oppression that native americans have faced?
Racist
i'm not the one sitting here denying that native americans face and have faced racial abuse at the hands of society
you're literally using the right-wing tactic of "you're acknowledging racism therefore you're racist"
yes because of your pfp, why else? who doesn't love columbo?
i'm not using anti-indigenous capitalist propaganda
attempting to reframe anything that's been said so far as such is clearly arguing in bad faith, and frankly, really weird
Why is it weird? Explain objectively, without appealing to the norms of the US system.
because acknowledging that the native american population has been beaten down by the state repeatedly and for centuries isn't anti-indigenous? because acknowledging that the native american population is a victim of systemic and at times systematic racism isn't anti-indigenous?
unless you would deny that they've been beaten down by the state repeatedly and for centuries?
Yes, they have. And therefore should be re-empowered ASAP. It is YOU who appears to be arguing that they are not up to the task, not me.
i'm saying they're not up to the task without significant support from some hypothetical party backing them up
i don't know what party you'd put in that position if not the current government, and at that point it seems like we're back to the start, no?
So you're saying they're not up to the task unless some [white majority party] supports them?
So again I say, YIKES
super weird that the abused aren't in a position of power, and that the abusers are
yeah, the party in power is majority white, and yeah that's because of historic racism, but that doesn't change the scenario that we're both looking at
Yeah so weird that you support white saviorism instead of returning control to indigenous groups.
It's almost like you're a liberal centrist.
what's your plan for returning power to indigenous people without involving a group that's currently in power (and therefore predominantly white, since racism exists), without having right wing populists use the power vacuum to seize control?
Just return it now. You think only white people are good enough to save them?
Racist.
again, a group of people that's been oppressed to the degree native americans have is not in a position to govern a nation like america
do you deny the oppression that native americans have faced?
Racist
i'm not the one sitting here denying that native americans face and have faced racial abuse at the hands of society
you're literally using the right-wing tactic of "you're acknowledging racism therefore you're racist"
My local indian office can barely send out checks, they couldn't just shoulder all government responsibilities. Stop saying bullshit