Bernie Sanders: Joe Biden for President

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Opinion | Bernie Sanders: Joe Biden for President
nytimes.com

I hate that this is the debate we’re having now

I also hate that I’m feeding into the NYT’s lazy and transparent attempt to undo their previous partisanship with new opposite partisanship like those two things cancel out and add up to journalism

But what the hell, if that’s where we’re at, this is a relevant data point about the landscape

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So you're just straight-up announcing your intention to immediately dismiss any answer you're given.

No, I am warning them that I plan to show the poll numbers comparing Biden to whoever they select. Dismissing is different from debunking with evidence. But yes, I plan to debunk whatever they say, assuming it’s realistic enough to be found in a list of even some pretty outlandish Democratic possibilities.

Well, you intend to paste a graph that doesn't take into account that no potential candidate other than Biden has campaigned at all, and that despite Biden's campaigning, his numbers are still shit.

Moving goalposts is good clean fun, isn't it? I am finished though. I have chased them around for as long as I wanted to.

You're taking advantage of a catch-22. No one's numbers can go up until they campaign, and no one's gonna campaign unless Biden steps aside.

Their numbers will go down after the Russians and right-wing media launch their anti-campaign against the new nominee. It's much easier to smear someone than for them to get a positive message out. Especially if you can lie and not be held accountable.

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