Does one have to be an iconoclast or revolutionary these days to be validly left? I consider myself to be left of center, and very much in favor of progressive policies.

Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 69 points –

However I find myself being disagreed with quite often, mostly for not advocating or cheering violence, "by any means possible" change, or revolutionary tactics. It would seem that I'm not viewed as authentically holding my view unless I advocate extreme, violent, or radical action to accomplish it.

Those seem like two different things to me.

Edit: TO COMMUNISTS, ANARCHISTS, OR ANYONE ELSE CALLING FOR THE OVERTHROW OF SOCIETY

THIS OBVIOUSLY ISN'T MEANT FOR YOU.

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You can be validly left without wanting revolution, as long as you're ok with progress happening over the course of centuries (in a world that has about 25 years left before the majority of us are dead from man-made climate change).

Some leftists aren’t so interested in progress, as in making sure everyone is okay.

making sure everyone is okay.

Given the current state of the world, that would be progress.

I agree. What I should have said is that some leftists aren’t seeking progress per se, but rather to ensure everyone is okay, per se.

One variable can be a leading indicator of another, but it’s still a different thing to be optimizing for one or the other.

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