Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

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It wasn't a rebuttal, it was a question. One you have not answered. And yet you expect me to answer yours.

The problem here is you're trying to argue with someone who asked a question.

It wasn't a rebuttal, it was a question.

A question completely unrelated to the statement? What is the purpose of the question......ahh yes, to set up a strawman argument to distract from the original statement. That's a shitty rebuttal, but it's still a rebuttal, or at least building up to one.

One you have not answered. And yet you expect me to answer yours.

You never asked me, you asked op. Also, Im not the one who thinks you have to work for the party you vote for to criticize them in a public forum. Lastly, I doubt someone as terminally online as yourself has enough time to canvass in the first place.

problem here is you're trying to argue with someone who asked a question.

The problem here is that your question isn't relevant to the statement and it's only purpose is to distract from the valid criticisms withing the original claim.

The problem is that your only response has been to attempt to lull people into a debate revolving around a logical fallacy.

No, the problem is you're trying to argue with a question.

It's called circular logic and can go on endlessly with idiots

Lol, I can't answer a question for someone else. I asked the same question to you and you are unwilling to answer. Why expect anything else from op?

If you were to ask me.... I would say that I don't canvass for national elections as I live in the most conservative state in the Union, but i do get involved for state and municipal elections. As I already said, I have served a term as a district delegate.

So, now that your "question" has been fulfilled, why ask in the first place, and how is it relative to the original statement? And, who are you canvassing for?

Let me guess, the answer is going to be based on another logical fallacy?

Why expect anything else from op?

Because they have spent months and months telling us who not to vote for without giving us any alternatives.

It may possibly be that you don't know the whole story here.

Because they have spent months and months telling us who not to vote for without giving us any alternatives.

Again, the best way to confront that is by confronting the claim. Not by just insinuating that they've failed some kind of loyalty test.

In their argument they made valid points which shouldn't just be brushed aside or excused without reason. It just makes it seem as if you are ignoring the criticism to the same extent that conservatives do for trump.

There's been an alarming popularization of conflating valid and invalid criticism against politicians. Instead of Democrats rejecting the demagoguery the GOP utilizes to lead their constituents the DNC has been adopting their tactics. Which is ultimately a goal of fascist movements everywhere.

may possibly be that you don't know the whole story here.

And how many people who see your argument are going to "know the whole story"? They're just going to see that criticism can be ignored if you utilize the right logical fallacy.

Again, the best way to confront that is by confronting the claim.

That's what I did.

Not by just insinuating that they’ve failed some kind of loyalty test.

That is not what I did.

And how many people who see your argument are going to “know the whole story”?

I don't really care.

That's what I did.

In your own words you said you didn't offer a rebuttal....

That is not what I did.

Lol, then what was the point of the question? Can you really not be honest for like a second?

don't really care.

Ahh, so just virtue signalling and stroking your ego. Cool.

Good luck "canvassing" with your memes....

Ahh, so just virtue signalling and stroking your ego. Cool.

And now you are both lying and insulting, so I think I won't reply to the rest of your post.

I hope you don't gaslight the people in your life as much as you attempt to do to people on the internet. Otherwise you're going to be a lonely and old before you know it.

But let's not pretend that you have attempted to be anything resembling honest during this engagement.

In what way am I gaslighting anyone?

Lol, my dude. Your whole argument was to perpetuate a strawman argument. Then to be dishonest about the motivation of your strawman argument, and then to accuse me of lying for pointing it out.

You don't remember the whole, I'm not making a rebuttal, I'm asking a question? And then later claiming that you confronted their claim...which would have been a rebuttal.

This whole time you've done nothing but been academically dishonest, and then you have the audacity to accuse me of lying... Pretty gaslightly to me fam. I mean you still haven't answered the question you demand from others, and haven't explained how that question is relevant.

and then to accuse me of lying for pointing it out.

That is another lie. I quoted the thing you initially lied about. I will quote it again:

Ahh, so just virtue signalling and stroking your ego. Cool.

So that's two lies.

I'm not going to address the rest of your post.

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