It sounds great on paper but it seems to rely too much on hoping everyone from the ground up isn't going to get greedy and skim or give themselves and friends a special deal. Humans aren't selfless. Even Gene Roddenberry gave up hope on his idea of a future, socialist humanity, because he realized humans are too selfish to establish a system like that. We should still try though. Better than then we have now
I think it is generally because of our deeply capitalist society and upbringing that we are told to believe people are greedy and selfish, therefore we must be greedy and selfish ourselves in order to not get taken advantage of, or replaced.
People gain power and become greedy and selfish. It's not a capitalist thing, it's been going on throughout all recorded history
People's ideas come from their Material Conditions.
I think humans in general are more equipped to have empathy for a smaller tribe compared a whole
Nation, let alone to billions of people world wide. It’s easier to share what you have with your neighbor rather than someone you have never met.
humans in general are more equipped to have empathy for a smaller tribe
not even - the small tribe is who tribe members with dark triad personality traits hurt the most
I agree.
impossible not to have greedy people with high drive, they have always existed and will always exist. And given that greed and high drive is a very explosive combination they will always wreck these systems.
Yeah that's really what my point boils down to. We humans ruin everything
It sounds great on paper but it seems to rely too much on hoping everyone from the ground up isn't going to get greedy and skim or give themselves and friends a special deal.
What on Earth are you referring to? How would one "skim?" What structures do you think exist in Communism that would allow this?
Huh? Do you think the people on top aren't going to get more money, better food, better everything? That's been proven over and over and in America? That would be abused immediately. Do you think things work for free in a socialist society? If there's money, there will be skimming.
And we're talking about socialism. Not communism. I've lived under a communist regime, it's not good. You young North American people shouldn't dream about that shit.
Socialism is good. Communism has been bastardized and corrupted beyond repair.
Huh? Do you think the people on top aren't going to get more money, better food, better everything? That's been proven over and over and in America?
Historically, disparity drastically decreased in AES countries. Additionally, America is Capitalist, not sure what your point is.
Do you think things work for free in a socialist society?
No, workers still work, but collectively own and control the production and distribution.
f there's money, there will be skimming.
And we're talking about socialism. Not communism. I've lived under a communist regime, it's not good. You young North American people shouldn't dream about that shit.
This post specifically is about Marxism, it's Communist. Additionally, if you don't mind, where did you live, and what happened?
Socialism is good. Communism has been bastardized and corrupted beyond repair.
Socialism is the path to Communism, it's difficult to untie the two.
It sounds great on paper but it seems to rely too much on hoping everyone from the ground up isn't going to get greedy and skim or give themselves and friends a special deal. Humans aren't selfless. Even Gene Roddenberry gave up hope on his idea of a future, socialist humanity, because he realized humans are too selfish to establish a system like that. We should still try though. Better than then we have now
I think it is generally because of our deeply capitalist society and upbringing that we are told to believe people are greedy and selfish, therefore we must be greedy and selfish ourselves in order to not get taken advantage of, or replaced.
People gain power and become greedy and selfish. It's not a capitalist thing, it's been going on throughout all recorded history
People's ideas come from their Material Conditions.
I think humans in general are more equipped to have empathy for a smaller tribe compared a whole Nation, let alone to billions of people world wide. It’s easier to share what you have with your neighbor rather than someone you have never met.
not even - the small tribe is who tribe members with dark triad personality traits hurt the most
I agree.
impossible not to have greedy people with high drive, they have always existed and will always exist. And given that greed and high drive is a very explosive combination they will always wreck these systems.
Yeah that's really what my point boils down to. We humans ruin everything
What on Earth are you referring to? How would one "skim?" What structures do you think exist in Communism that would allow this?
Huh? Do you think the people on top aren't going to get more money, better food, better everything? That's been proven over and over and in America? That would be abused immediately. Do you think things work for free in a socialist society? If there's money, there will be skimming. And we're talking about socialism. Not communism. I've lived under a communist regime, it's not good. You young North American people shouldn't dream about that shit.
Socialism is good. Communism has been bastardized and corrupted beyond repair.
Historically, disparity drastically decreased in AES countries. Additionally, America is Capitalist, not sure what your point is.
No, workers still work, but collectively own and control the production and distribution.
This post specifically is about Marxism, it's Communist. Additionally, if you don't mind, where did you live, and what happened?
Socialism is the path to Communism, it's difficult to untie the two.