Maybe sit this one out, champ, and stop trying to persuade others to follow your anti-democratic example.
Me saying who I am voting for, isn't "trying to persuade others."
I have always said, and will continue to say, people should vote for who they want to. Yes, I encourage everyone to vote for and vote for who they want to, and not allow themselves to be bullied into making a decision they are not comfortable with.
So nah, not sitting this one out. Thank you!
You constantly making posts and comments pushing for, again, a clear Russian plant whose entire purpose is to prop up a candidate who has already committed treason twice and who has openly admitted he will end democracy is not benign. Your contributions have, so far, not contributed to healthy discourse, but have been pretty obviously made with the intention to promote division.
If that’s who you are, just own it. If it’s not, take a step back and examine your motives.
And – this one is crucial – how to productively redirect your efforts, if you’re in fact sincere: FairVote Action, an actual grass-roots org working to get rid of the FPTP system to make democracy actually fair.
If you take nothing else from my comments, at least look at that last link. Your energy would be far better served there than what you’re doing now. Be the change you want to see.
I'm not voting for Jill Stein, though.
And I’m not pushing her as a candidate, and I’m definitely not telling people who to vote for. I trust the American public to make their own decisions based on what they believe, for whatever reasons matter to them.
I don’t write the articles; I just post links to them. It’s up to each person to decide if they want to click and read or ignore it entirely.
Be the change you want to see.
Oh I am being the change i wanna see. I want to see diversity of political thought without bullying. Thank you!
What country do you live in?
Be the change you want to see.
Oh I am being the change I wanna see. I want to see diversity of political thought without bullying.
What county do I live in? I'm here in the US. Where do you think I am?! lol
Friend, I've been voting since before you were born. I've been voting since 1988.
lol. Friend, I’m older than you. Stop assuming things about people.
You said you’re not voting. Why are you relentlessly pushing Stein? Be honest.
Oh well if you ARE older than me, then my apologies. Because it's usually people 30 years younger yelling at me. But you are right, I made that assumption.
And I didn't say I'm not voting, I said I'm not voting for Stein. I've always been honest.
So you’re not voting for Harris, or trump, or Stein – why are your posts almost exclusively pro-Stein?
Did you even look at my links? How can you be my age and so completely blind to the political landscape?
Which issues are you stuck on, to the point you’re this coy and uninformed enough to be advocating for a spoiler in favour of a documented autocrat? I’m seriously at a loss.
I post articles, I don't write them. What makes you think that I have to agree 100 percent with every article I post? That's not a rule, nor is it a goal of this political news community.
I’ve posted articles that are critical of Trump, Stein, and Harris, as well as articles praising each of them.
I'm actually voting Socialist Workers Party. I believe in choices, and I support people voting for whoever they want. That is their right. As it's my right. Thank you!
Come on. This is just insulting.
Why aren’t you posting all the Harris articles if you don’t care? Or just cat memes? Nobody is buying your ‘just asking questions’ shtick. This is why you were banned for sea-lioning.
I don’t believe you’re as old as you say. You act like a 23 year-old libertarian who’s just learning philosophy, with a rudimentary understanding and just enough edge to cut cheese. The more you talk, the less serious you sound.
I really hope you’re in your early 20s, because otherwise this is embarrassing.
I was banned 3 days for sealioning, that is correct. I disagree with the mods reasoning, but this is their community, their rules, so I am fine with it.
But you know what I realized during those three days? There are a lot of other Lemmy communities where people are open about voting third party. Cool, right?!
I ended up spending my time posting and chatting with like-minded folks, and it was actually fun! My voice wasn’t silenced at all—I just found bigger audiences who appreciated the same articles and wanted real discussions.
Not everyone thinks like you. And that's ok.
You are free to believe whatever you would like. I don't have to explain anything more to you. Thank you!
This poster disagrees that it was guilty of Sealioning. That's amusing.
In short, it's a form of trolling. Sealioning is defined specifically by the following characteristics:
A faux veneer of civility. That's because the troll wants to play victim when others lose their sense of civility dealing with said troll.
Persistence. Another poster here points out how often this poster posts, and it comes out to once every 18 minutes, every hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. A Sealion tries to erode one's sense of goodwill and decorum by constantly hounding people that disagree with it,
A fake attempt to appear to be trying to educate oneself or others.
Sealioning isn't an exact match for this poster's behaviour, but it's damn close. Little petty grammar and spelling nazi comments. Intruding into other people's DMs without permission. Constantly hiding behind the community rules. Using and abusing the fuck out of laws of civility and this community, while having zero intention to do anything but be disruptive, annoying, insulting, condescending, and otherwise just plain unpleasant, secure in the knowledge that we can't call it out for what it is because the Mods have handcuffed us with these silly 'be civil' rules.
The mods have actually tagged this poster with a three day timeout for being a troll. I don't think that gives me permission to carte blanc call this poster a troll, but I can at least point out every time I see it pushing its latest nonsense that the moderator team here has suspended its access for 3 days for trolling. We'll see if the mods let that stay up. Given the nonsense that the mods have let stay up for the person they put in time out for being a troll, I hope it will. Kind of like calling out a convicted thief as a thief, or a convicted fraudster as a fraudster. Just with a silly extra step because we wouldn't want to be uncivil to someone who is wanting to be uncivil to us.
My posts do NOT come out every 18 minutes, 24 hours a day. That's 100 percent false. You can just look at the time stamps and see that's false. The time frames mentioned are averages, not actual posting intervals. It's not literal, friend.
And as you just mentioned, the mods banned me for 3 days. I've had comments removed when they thought I went too far, just as you have had. So no, I don't get any preferential treatment from them, nor have I ever asked. No one is "handcuffed" when it comes to speaking out against me.
@jordanlund@lemmy.world would you like to jump in and address his concerns regarding the modding activity of this community?
So why did you come back here, where people are rational?
Again, if you truly believe that 3rd parties need a place at the table (and for the record, I truly believe they do), you should be pushing people to support FairVote Action, not Jill Stein.
Considering your nearly inhuman posting frequency, you could be an effective agent for actual change. So why are you wasting your time doing this instead of using your considerable free time to actually make a difference?
So why did you come back here, where people are rational?
I think most people on Lemmy are rational.
Again, I'm not voting for Jill Stein. My "nearly inhuman posting frequency" as in me replying to you replying to me. I mean, you are having pretty inhuman posting frequency right now. OMG we are inhumans! Awesome!
Me saying who I am voting for, isn't "trying to persuade others."
I have always said, and will continue to say, people should vote for who they want to. Yes, I encourage everyone to vote for and vote for who they want to, and not allow themselves to be bullied into making a decision they are not comfortable with.
So nah, not sitting this one out. Thank you!
You constantly making posts and comments pushing for, again, a clear Russian plant whose entire purpose is to prop up a candidate who has already committed treason twice and who has openly admitted he will end democracy is not benign. Your contributions have, so far, not contributed to healthy discourse, but have been pretty obviously made with the intention to promote division.
If that’s who you are, just own it. If it’s not, take a step back and examine your motives.
Here are some sources for you:
Russians launched pro-Jill Stein social media blitz to help Trump win election, reports say
FPTP Voting
And – this one is crucial – how to productively redirect your efforts, if you’re in fact sincere: FairVote Action, an actual grass-roots org working to get rid of the FPTP system to make democracy actually fair.
If you take nothing else from my comments, at least look at that last link. Your energy would be far better served there than what you’re doing now. Be the change you want to see.
I'm not voting for Jill Stein, though.
And I’m not pushing her as a candidate, and I’m definitely not telling people who to vote for. I trust the American public to make their own decisions based on what they believe, for whatever reasons matter to them.
I don’t write the articles; I just post links to them. It’s up to each person to decide if they want to click and read or ignore it entirely.
Oh I am being the change i wanna see. I want to see diversity of political thought without bullying. Thank you!
What country do you live in?
Oh I am being the change I wanna see. I want to see diversity of political thought without bullying.
What county do I live in? I'm here in the US. Where do you think I am?! lol
Friend, I've been voting since before you were born. I've been voting since 1988.
lol. Friend, I’m older than you. Stop assuming things about people.
You said you’re not voting. Why are you relentlessly pushing Stein? Be honest.
Oh well if you ARE older than me, then my apologies. Because it's usually people 30 years younger yelling at me. But you are right, I made that assumption.
And I didn't say I'm not voting, I said I'm not voting for Stein. I've always been honest.
So you’re not voting for Harris, or trump, or Stein – why are your posts almost exclusively pro-Stein?
Did you even look at my links? How can you be my age and so completely blind to the political landscape?
Which issues are you stuck on, to the point you’re this coy and uninformed enough to be advocating for a spoiler in favour of a documented autocrat? I’m seriously at a loss.
I post articles, I don't write them. What makes you think that I have to agree 100 percent with every article I post? That's not a rule, nor is it a goal of this political news community.
I’ve posted articles that are critical of Trump, Stein, and Harris, as well as articles praising each of them.
I'm actually voting Socialist Workers Party. I believe in choices, and I support people voting for whoever they want. That is their right. As it's my right. Thank you!
Come on. This is just insulting.
Why aren’t you posting all the Harris articles if you don’t care? Or just cat memes? Nobody is buying your ‘just asking questions’ shtick. This is why you were banned for sea-lioning.
I don’t believe you’re as old as you say. You act like a 23 year-old libertarian who’s just learning philosophy, with a rudimentary understanding and just enough edge to cut cheese. The more you talk, the less serious you sound.
I really hope you’re in your early 20s, because otherwise this is embarrassing.
I was banned 3 days for sealioning, that is correct. I disagree with the mods reasoning, but this is their community, their rules, so I am fine with it.
But you know what I realized during those three days? There are a lot of other Lemmy communities where people are open about voting third party. Cool, right?!
I ended up spending my time posting and chatting with like-minded folks, and it was actually fun! My voice wasn’t silenced at all—I just found bigger audiences who appreciated the same articles and wanted real discussions.
Not everyone thinks like you. And that's ok.
You are free to believe whatever you would like. I don't have to explain anything more to you. Thank you!
This poster disagrees that it was guilty of Sealioning. That's amusing.
Dear reader, let's look at what Sealioning is.
In short, it's a form of trolling. Sealioning is defined specifically by the following characteristics:
Sealioning isn't an exact match for this poster's behaviour, but it's damn close. Little petty grammar and spelling nazi comments. Intruding into other people's DMs without permission. Constantly hiding behind the community rules. Using and abusing the fuck out of laws of civility and this community, while having zero intention to do anything but be disruptive, annoying, insulting, condescending, and otherwise just plain unpleasant, secure in the knowledge that we can't call it out for what it is because the Mods have handcuffed us with these silly 'be civil' rules.
The mods have actually tagged this poster with a three day timeout for being a troll. I don't think that gives me permission to carte blanc call this poster a troll, but I can at least point out every time I see it pushing its latest nonsense that the moderator team here has suspended its access for 3 days for trolling. We'll see if the mods let that stay up. Given the nonsense that the mods have let stay up for the person they put in time out for being a troll, I hope it will. Kind of like calling out a convicted thief as a thief, or a convicted fraudster as a fraudster. Just with a silly extra step because we wouldn't want to be uncivil to someone who is wanting to be uncivil to us.
The modlog is public: https://lemmy.world/modlog/1252
My posts do NOT come out every 18 minutes, 24 hours a day. That's 100 percent false. You can just look at the time stamps and see that's false. The time frames mentioned are averages, not actual posting intervals. It's not literal, friend.
And as you just mentioned, the mods banned me for 3 days. I've had comments removed when they thought I went too far, just as you have had. So no, I don't get any preferential treatment from them, nor have I ever asked. No one is "handcuffed" when it comes to speaking out against me.
@jordanlund@lemmy.world would you like to jump in and address his concerns regarding the modding activity of this community?
So why did you come back here, where people are rational?
Again, if you truly believe that 3rd parties need a place at the table (and for the record, I truly believe they do), you should be pushing people to support FairVote Action, not Jill Stein.
Considering your nearly inhuman posting frequency, you could be an effective agent for actual change. So why are you wasting your time doing this instead of using your considerable free time to actually make a difference?
I think most people on Lemmy are rational.
Again, I'm not voting for Jill Stein. My "nearly inhuman posting frequency" as in me replying to you replying to me. I mean, you are having pretty inhuman posting frequency right now. OMG we are inhumans! Awesome!
Thank you for the compliments, friend!