But his parents weren't super rich billionaires, were they? No one had a hundred billion dollars before, he didnt get it all from his parents, where did he get it all?
The answer is hard work.
Not his own hard work, obviously, the the hard work of the workers he exploited
Totally agree. How does the hard work become his hundreds of billions?
amazon grows its revenue → amazon stock value increases → amazon share holder richer
Many companies also pay dividends directly to the share holder but iirc Amazon has preferred to reinvest in growth
The other user said it was exploited labor, what does that have to do with revenue and stock value?
Those are the vehicles that transfer the plunder.
How does that work?
Amazon has been really successful in several domains and he's owned a lot of it from the start
How does owning something turn into hundreds of billions of dollars? I own things too, they don't turn into hundreds of billions
You need to own stuff that others value
I'm sorry to ask such elementary questions, but why do others value it?
It's not an elementary question.
Best I can guess is: plenty of people, plenty of reasons. Which is a stupid answer.
This all seems very far removed from other people's concerns about worker exploitation
Is that a problem?
What about their concerns? Are their concerns not a problem?
?
Amazon: people like books; people like next day delivery of stuff; people and companies like making stuff and running stuff in Amazon web services
Minecraft: Marcus Persson owned the game studio (and wrote quite a bit of the game) that made Minecraft, lots of people like it, Microsoft was willing to buy it for billions
Kiran Mazumdan-Shaw made beer, people like beer. They then used beer making processes to make biotech medicines - people like being alive and will pay a lot to stay alive, or even just a bit healthier
Your things didn't increase in perceived value as much as Amazon then
Is that how value is determined? How others perceive value? Isn't that kind of subjective? Is there a possibility he isn't worth that much money? Could he be worth even more? Not like margin of error, but dramatically more or less like 20-30% off one way or the other?
The value is tecknically the effect of what is called a stock market, and it does vary quite a bit over time as perceptions and economic factors change
You lost me. Sounds like made up crap
No but if you start with millions and invest it or make interest on it you have a lot more options and opportunities to make more money.
If you start with nothing you are just blocked out of that all together. It's why I'm having such a hard time starting my own business. I have to pay all my bills so my time goes to that instead of what would actually make me successful.
What kind of business do you want to start?
I'm an artist of sorts. I make interactive art kind of like games so I want to open a gallery space with a bar where I can have people come and try my experiences.
They are similar to arcade games but they have physical dioramas with transparent screens inside as the game levels. You control your character or whatever the game calls for with your phone. My current iteration uses multiple screens and diorama as well as physical objects for a single experience. Kind of like a Metroidvania style game.
I have so many ideas for larger experiences I could build with all of the stuff I have learned making these crazy games. My goal would be to make an experience that takes about an hour to complete. Similar to an escape room except you're not locked in a room. Maybe more tiki bar vibes where the scenery of the bar is interactive too.
All of my free time when I'm not working or doing family stuff goes into making the art for these games and it's hard to then come up with the time and money to get a space and advertise. Plus I have a family to support. So I work full time as a software engineer making someone else's boring idea. While my fun innovative ideas get less of my attention lol.
I feel my only hope is to get an investor or something but then I have to deal with all that comes with that.
Wow do you have any of it already created? Can I see it?
But his parents weren't super rich billionaires, were they? No one had a hundred billion dollars before, he didnt get it all from his parents, where did he get it all?
The answer is hard work.
Not his own hard work, obviously, the the hard work of the workers he exploited
Totally agree. How does the hard work become his hundreds of billions?
amazon grows its revenue → amazon stock value increases → amazon share holder richer
Many companies also pay dividends directly to the share holder but iirc Amazon has preferred to reinvest in growth
The other user said it was exploited labor, what does that have to do with revenue and stock value?
Those are the vehicles that transfer the plunder.
How does that work?
Amazon has been really successful in several domains and he's owned a lot of it from the start
How does owning something turn into hundreds of billions of dollars? I own things too, they don't turn into hundreds of billions
You need to own stuff that others value
I'm sorry to ask such elementary questions, but why do others value it?
It's not an elementary question.
Best I can guess is: plenty of people, plenty of reasons. Which is a stupid answer.
This all seems very far removed from other people's concerns about worker exploitation
Is that a problem?
What about their concerns? Are their concerns not a problem?
?
Amazon: people like books; people like next day delivery of stuff; people and companies like making stuff and running stuff in Amazon web services
Minecraft: Marcus Persson owned the game studio (and wrote quite a bit of the game) that made Minecraft, lots of people like it, Microsoft was willing to buy it for billions
Kiran Mazumdan-Shaw made beer, people like beer. They then used beer making processes to make biotech medicines - people like being alive and will pay a lot to stay alive, or even just a bit healthier
Your things didn't increase in perceived value as much as Amazon then
Is that how value is determined? How others perceive value? Isn't that kind of subjective? Is there a possibility he isn't worth that much money? Could he be worth even more? Not like margin of error, but dramatically more or less like 20-30% off one way or the other?
The value is tecknically the effect of what is called a stock market, and it does vary quite a bit over time as perceptions and economic factors change
You lost me. Sounds like made up crap
No but if you start with millions and invest it or make interest on it you have a lot more options and opportunities to make more money.
If you start with nothing you are just blocked out of that all together. It's why I'm having such a hard time starting my own business. I have to pay all my bills so my time goes to that instead of what would actually make me successful.
What kind of business do you want to start?
I'm an artist of sorts. I make interactive art kind of like games so I want to open a gallery space with a bar where I can have people come and try my experiences.
They are similar to arcade games but they have physical dioramas with transparent screens inside as the game levels. You control your character or whatever the game calls for with your phone. My current iteration uses multiple screens and diorama as well as physical objects for a single experience. Kind of like a Metroidvania style game.
I have so many ideas for larger experiences I could build with all of the stuff I have learned making these crazy games. My goal would be to make an experience that takes about an hour to complete. Similar to an escape room except you're not locked in a room. Maybe more tiki bar vibes where the scenery of the bar is interactive too.
All of my free time when I'm not working or doing family stuff goes into making the art for these games and it's hard to then come up with the time and money to get a space and advertise. Plus I have a family to support. So I work full time as a software engineer making someone else's boring idea. While my fun innovative ideas get less of my attention lol.
I feel my only hope is to get an investor or something but then I have to deal with all that comes with that.
Wow do you have any of it already created? Can I see it?
Yeah I posted a video of one of the games I made already here https://peoplemaking.games/@Intelligentbean/110914972158457991