The democrats did this to themselves

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The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!

In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.

In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.

In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!

In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.

In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.

And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.

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I think Harris and Walz were good candidates but their pitch was simply unappealing. The average american has been hurting bad the last 4 years. Harris' pitch was to maintain the degrading status-quo while trump promised to do SOMETHING. Whether or not that something is successful doesn't matter, people are sick of slowly getting crushed by costs of living.

And so they chose to vote for the candidate who will only make COL worse. Pathetic.

People struggle with differentiating causation and correlation. The past four years of inflation has wrecked peoples' pocketbooks and Harris spent a lot of her campaign refusing to acknowledge the unpopularity of the current administration she's serving in. Meanwhile, most people don't remember struggling as hard as they do now under Trump (myself included). I didn't vote for him BTW, but I'm not going to act like I don't understand how his pitch appealed to lots of people.

Once again smug liberals blaming voters for voting wrong instead of blaming their party for running shitty untested candidates.

Can't both be true?

And for the record, I'm not smug, I'm furious.

No, at the end of the day it’s the political parties responsibility to run electable candidates. Not even having a primary makes it so they ran someone untested. And lost.

Harris is objectively better than Trump by any measure. If the voters were educated on their respective platforms instead of voting out of hate they'd have voted Harris.

Better than Trump by any measure

Except the only measure that matters, which happened last night. Can't even say she was more popular either.

I don't consider popular to be "better", especially when the popularity is among the current republican voting base

Harris lost. Period. End of story. Electoral college and popular vote. Whether you agree or not is irrelevant, the voters decided trump was the better candidate.

If what you said is true we wouldn’t be having this conversation because Harris would of been elected with similar margins.

I don't consider most of the united states populace to have good judgement on what is better or worse

Again, that’s your feelings. You’re in the denial stage of grief. The American populace definitively decided that trump was the better candidate whether you like it or agree with it. I hate the guy but I can’t blame them when the democrats refuse to engage in democracy and run a shit candidate. Who lost. In a landslide. And lost the senate! And likely the house!

I don't know what you think I'm saying but it's clearly not what I'm actually saying.

Kalama Harris would be a better president on any of the issues that people care about. People voted for Trump anyways because they think he will do better. These are both true at the same time.

These people are so fucking delusional it blows my mind that they have enough brain cells to fill out a ballot at all.

You’re delusional. The voters didn’t buy it and at the end of the day you need to accept defeat and run better candidates and the only way to do that is with fair competitive primaries, something the DNC has neglected since 2008!