Defederate lemmynsfw.com?

CosmicGiraffe@lemmy.world to Lemmy.World Announcements@lemmy.world – 168 points –

The admins on lemmynsfw.com have decided to allow "non-IRL loli", i.e. drawn porn involving children/teenagers. (Post: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29633).

Irrelevant of the moral issues that this poses, such content is illegal in many countries (e.g the UK). Continuing to federate with lemmynsfw.com will put users at risk of significant legal repercussions.

Please would the admins consider defederating unless lemmynsfw change their policy.

UPDATE: The lemmynsfw admins posted an clarification here: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29826. My original argument for defederating doesn't stand any more.

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If any illegal content would be posted there, let us know. If it's 1 community, we can block the community. If it's all over the place, we can defederate. But I see defederation as a last resort. If there are other ways to keep our server safe I prefer that.

Thank you for taking the conservative approach to moderating instead of nuking from orbit.

They did make a poll and then later announced they'll be banning underage anime art and IRL imagery . But not art of cute/short characters because it's impossible to discern if they're over 18 or not. It's the whole Pokemon debate all over again.

I think it's worth pointing out that legality depends on jurisdiction and while it's obviously a requirement to obey the your (and other admins') local laws, it's not quite so clear-cut when it comes to other countries.

Eg. It's illegal to criticize Hong Kong's government under their National Security Law. But I think we'd (the community here, not just you and me) agree that lemmy.world has absolutely no obligation to follow that law.

Also worth pointing out in crimes of this manner intent also matters in many places.

If someone sends you that shit out of the blue, or you scroll by it while browsing the internet, there wasn't a damn thing you could do. If you saved the image now we have a problem, ideally you take steps to ensure you won't see that image or anything like it again but I don't even think that would be legally required in alot of places...

Also, when you set Type to Subscribed in Settings the front page default feed only contains posts from communities you have actually subscribed to.

This does not prevent lemmy.world from accidently hosting illegal content, but it helps to protect your own feed from unwanted stuff.