I legit don't care if we lose it at this point because it seems like it's been pretty worthless all along. At least as a democracy for anyone other than slave/property owners.
I really care. Without democracy, people like me and the people I care about are going to end up in death camps. American prisons are probably where it will happen. Once Republicans ram through the death penalty everywhere.
How exactly has the democracy prevented that? The American 'democracy' has overseen many genocides in its past, I don't see this as a deviation from form. I've pretty sure I'd be on the chopping block too, but the key distinction is I'm not putting my faith in voting as a preventative measure for that
Non-violent means to prevent violence should be cherished. It's true, the US committed genocide against Native Americans. That is obviously morally wrong. We haven't been doing that in the 20th or 21st centuries though.
How exactly has the democracy prevented that?
Elected politicians are beholden to the people, so they can't go around killing all of their voters.
It's true, the US committed genocide against Native Americans. That is obviously morally wrong. We haven't been doing that in the 20th or 21st centuries though.
The US has committed genocidal war against Koreans and Vietnamese and Afghans and Iraqis among others in the 20th and 21st centuries.
As robot pointed out, the killing never stopped- the US killed approximately a third of the population of North Korea, dropping more bombs on that part of the peninsula than on all of Europe.
Elected politicians are beholden to the people, so they can't go around killing all of their voters.
Conveniently, the millions of people killed and displaced by Americas warmongering don't get a fucking vote lol.
I mean the killings stopped after the cease fire that ended the fighting in the Korean War if not the war itself. Yeah, it seems like America was over inclusive on what were military targets in the Korean War.
Conveniently, the millions of people killed and displaced by Americas warmongering don’t get a fucking vote lol.
Yes, if you're not in a democracy you don't get a vote. I don't get the practicality of being completely anti-war. Wars are an inevitable part of human society. Atrocities committed in war don't undermine the value of democracy. In fact, I would argue that democratic societies experience fewer atrocities because their governments are beholden to the people and do not have absolute power.
In fact, I would argue that democratic societies experience fewer atrocities because their governments are beholden to the people and do not have absolute power.
The reality is because you're too busy inflicting them on everyone else, and to people it's socially acceptable to hate within in your society (criminals, homeless people, ethnic minorities).
Wars are an inevitable part of human society.
muh human nature, pay no attention to the material conditions behind the curtain
I don't think it is social acceptable to hate people. But as far as I'm concerned what you're saying is a non sequitur.
Lol, because the USSR and China never got involved in wars, okay. Communism doesn't prevent wars and in fact the scarcity of resources communists societies generate would probably cause wars.
You seem to fall right in line when it comes to the russophobia, Communists saved the world from fascism and you guys can't seem to forgive them for that.
And you already made it clear that your consideration for people ends at your national borders, that's a pretty hateful mentality, especially when you're using your "democratically controlled" military and economic influence to coerce weaker countries into shitty deals.
I'm ethnically Russian thanks. My family where Russian-Jewish fur traders from Siberia. I don't have anything against the Russian people.
Communists and Capitalists saved the world together.
No, I care about what happens across national borders.
I don't care what ethnicity you are, you're repeating the same shit about how everyone saying anything other than CNN talking points is a russian or chinese bot, fuck off.
Communists and Capitalists saved the world together.
lmao okay yang gang
No, I care about what happens across national borders.
Yeah no shit, you pretty clearly want to make sure the resources keep coming from there, but for the brown people to stay where they are.
I hope you're getting something out of directing your arguments at me. I know I'm getting a good laugh out of it.
I legit don't care if we lose it at this point because it seems like it's been pretty worthless all along. At least as a democracy for anyone other than slave/property owners.
I really care. Without democracy, people like me and the people I care about are going to end up in death camps. American prisons are probably where it will happen. Once Republicans ram through the death penalty everywhere.
How exactly has the democracy prevented that? The American 'democracy' has overseen many genocides in its past, I don't see this as a deviation from form. I've pretty sure I'd be on the chopping block too, but the key distinction is I'm not putting my faith in voting as a preventative measure for that
Non-violent means to prevent violence should be cherished. It's true, the US committed genocide against Native Americans. That is obviously morally wrong. We haven't been doing that in the 20th or 21st centuries though.
How exactly has the democracy prevented that? Elected politicians are beholden to the people, so they can't go around killing all of their voters.
The US has committed genocidal war against Koreans and Vietnamese and Afghans and Iraqis among others in the 20th and 21st centuries.
As robot pointed out, the killing never stopped- the US killed approximately a third of the population of North Korea, dropping more bombs on that part of the peninsula than on all of Europe.
Conveniently, the millions of people killed and displaced by Americas warmongering don't get a fucking vote lol.
I mean the killings stopped after the cease fire that ended the fighting in the Korean War if not the war itself. Yeah, it seems like America was over inclusive on what were military targets in the Korean War.
Yes, if you're not in a democracy you don't get a vote. I don't get the practicality of being completely anti-war. Wars are an inevitable part of human society. Atrocities committed in war don't undermine the value of democracy. In fact, I would argue that democratic societies experience fewer atrocities because their governments are beholden to the people and do not have absolute power.
The reality is because you're too busy inflicting them on everyone else, and to people it's socially acceptable to hate within in your society (criminals, homeless people, ethnic minorities).
muh human nature, pay no attention to the material conditions behind the curtain
I don't think it is social acceptable to hate people. But as far as I'm concerned what you're saying is a non sequitur.
Lol, because the USSR and China never got involved in wars, okay. Communism doesn't prevent wars and in fact the scarcity of resources communists societies generate would probably cause wars.
You seem to fall right in line when it comes to the russophobia, Communists saved the world from fascism and you guys can't seem to forgive them for that.
And you already made it clear that your consideration for people ends at your national borders, that's a pretty hateful mentality, especially when you're using your "democratically controlled" military and economic influence to coerce weaker countries into shitty deals.
I'm ethnically Russian thanks. My family where Russian-Jewish fur traders from Siberia. I don't have anything against the Russian people.
Communists and Capitalists saved the world together.
No, I care about what happens across national borders.
I don't care what ethnicity you are, you're repeating the same shit about how everyone saying anything other than CNN talking points is a russian or chinese bot, fuck off.
lmao okay yang gang
Yeah no shit, you pretty clearly want to make sure the resources keep coming from there, but for the brown people to stay where they are.
I hope you're getting something out of directing your arguments at me. I know I'm getting a good laugh out of it.