Finnish_nationalisti

Yes i agree

Sorry, i mistook you for the other commentor. Although my point still stands. The majority of pedophiles are heterosexuals yes, because 95% of the populace (in US) is heterosexual. But 21% of pedophiles are homosexual, while only around 5% of the populace is homosexual, meaning homosexuals are statistically way more likely to be pedophiles.

With quick maths when there are 750 000 registered child predators, of which 21% are homosexual, that means there are 157 000 homosexual child predators. That means 0,009 pedophiles per homosexual. The same number for heterosexuals is 0,0019 pedophiles per heterosexual. This means a homosexual is almost five times (4,7) more likely to be a pedophile compared to a heterosexual.

That is quite a significant difference, and certainly warrants discussion wouldn't you say? Why is brining up these numbers forbidden?

So any country that trades with Western countries doesn’t have a right to exist? I will point out that both China and Russia trade with the United States.

Indeed, but do China and Russia import or export with the West? Mainly export, Russian and Chinese economy is based on domestic production and exporting it along with resources to the West, they don't get raw resources from the global South through the West (not in any significant way anyway), they don't enforce the comprador regimes in the global South. The West on the other hand relies on importing resources and production from the global South for half free. Cut the West from the global South and the West starves, do the same with China or Russia and, while not a fun time, they will manage.

It isn't just about trading with the West, but rather if one takes part in the imperialist exploitation of the global South.

Globally were one human race, but we have a variety of countries determined by who can defend their borders.

This cosmopolitanism is baseless. If all humans are the same people divided by arbitrary borders, why not go strike up a conversation with lets say a Mandarin chinese person? Surely an arbitrary border won't limit your communication with your fellow human? I'll use the German example again, did East Germans become a seperate people from West Germans when Germany was split? Korea has been split just little longer than Germany was.

I wonder and under what circumstances in your philosophy would a group of people be allowed just to separate from their parent country?

"Parent country" is a nebulous term, as a country isn't necessarily a nation, and a nation might not necessarily even have a country.

Most recreational activies are productive and serve a purpose other than mindless pleasure, be it reading, exercising, creative projects or other such activites. Recreational drug use serves no such purpose and only exists to numb one's mind from the outside world, and likely their troubles, this fact just is covered by pretty words about "relaxation" and such.

Banning a substance (with strategic eye of course, for example a total immediate ban on alcohol would cause more problems than it would solve, a incremental ban is better in this case) that complements this behaviour also discourages this behaviour, as no-one who isn't addicted to the substance will take the risk of procuring it illegally. And the ones who are addicted obviously require medical care.

The decrease of organised crime in drug trade is no argument, one could argue that murder should be legal since the amount of convicted murderers goes down if it is legalised. Not to mention how the ban on certain drugs in America isn't designed to lower the usage of drugs to begin with, rather simply profit off it in various ways.

I say all nations (nation being seperate from state, not all nations have states currently) have the right to self-determination through their own state. But self-determination doesn't cover the exploitation and oppression of others, im sure you'd agree. The imperialist West is based on the imperialist exploitation of the global South, mainly through economic measures, although sometimes through direct military measures too.

I'm against this imperialism and wish to see Western nations overthrow their imperialist governments in favour of self-sustaining or atleast non-exploitative governments (global trade is possible without exploitation afterall).

Okay. So people who speak the same language should be in the same country?

That is an oversimplification. Language along with ethnicity is the most obvious divider between peoples, but not the only one. I simply used it as an example due to its obviousnes, the definition of nation i find to be the most based on reality is: "A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture."

Or is it possible for people who speak the same language to be in different countries?

It is possible and happens, most notably with the Anglos, although there is a debate to be had whether the anglo states should unify under a common state, seeing as they pretty much are the same nation. An Englishman can easily move to Australia, understand everyone, and be indistinguishable from other Australians fairly quick. But were the same Englishman to move to Nigeria for example, he couldn't communicate with anyone, and would never assimilate into the nation.

If you want to go down that road, then every classification is arbitrary as there is no definition of drugs sent down from the heavens. In any case this is just sophistry, call it what you want, it is irrelevant. The point still stands, it is a heavily mind altering substance that has no benefits when used recreationally (this is the point of the word recreational), and as such must be banned.

And why should i care what American lawyers think? Like i said, it's a victimless crime if one is a selfish individualist liberal who cares only for themselves, and not society as a whole, so Americans and American lawyers especially.

Please cite your source on all people believing the definition of the word being “selfish individuals”.

What? I said selfish individualists, and that is what they are, people that put their own benefit and enjoyment before the good of their society, otherwise they wouldn't be arguing for recreational drugs, as there is no collectivist argument for them, only individualist ones.

Citation needed.

Literally look anywhere outside of the West, you wont see many people taking Western style slacking off as a granted.

South Korea takes part in Western imperialism through the Western market. One can think of it as South Korea knowingly buying stolen goods from a shady dealer because its cheaper.

And there is no "South Korean people", Korea is a nation, currently split due to political reasons. It goes against national self-determination to keep the Korean nation split. Were east-Germans a seperate people from west-Germans? Was it against their "right to exist" when Germany was united?

Was the American revolution an "invasion" against the english? Or the French revolution an "invasion" against the monarchists?

Since you want to split hairs and argue about some hidden implications, instead of actual substance, the comment obviously implied that a man from a "risk group" for pedophilia (for lack of a better term), working exclusively with children, getting so upset about anti-lgbt laws likely is a pedophile.

Now that i've microanalysed my own comment for you, would you care to tell me whether sexuality is an inborn trait one can't change?

Show me the proof that members of the West other than the US sanctioned North Korea between 1991 and 2006.

Ah i see the goal posts have moved. Why don't you show me proof that there was any trade between the West and North Korea between this time. An embargo doesn't have to be an announced and official one.

Even Russia sanctioned North Korea starting in 2013 for their behavior.

And?

Really i don't even understand how this matters in the first place, i wouldn't have thought the claim that North Korea has been sanctioned would be so controversial. Pretty sure its common knowledge. Isn't it called the "hermit kingdom" or some such too?

If religion is the opium of the masses, i wonder what actual drugs are...

So victimless. That’s the definition.

Only to a selfish individualist who puts his one gain before the good of everyone else.

Is it? It is it just reasonable to realize that millions of years of mamillian evolution have led to leisure as normal a part of the species.

Literally only in the opulent West and in the last few decades is it considered normal for one to slack off doing absolutely nothing usefull for the better part of the day.

Increased brain activity in itself isn't a benefit, not to mention relying on drugs to keep yourself going is the opposite of healthy. There are perfectly healthy ways to keep one's brain activity up, exercise, healthy diet, enough sleep and so on.

So one is born a pedophile? Typically your crowd claims people are born with their sexualities, and they cannot be changed.

I did specify "in its current form" (meaning economically and politically, not statehood itself) for the West in general. Im a staunch defender of self-determination of nations, but self-determination doesn't include the oppresion and exploitation of other nations.

Korea being a split nation the only rightfull outcome is unifying the North and South, and obviously i prefer unifying them under the socialist North, rather than the imperialist South.

I did say that anyone not addicted wouldn't procure substances illegally, not everyone with a drug problem seeks medical help you know.

The use of drugs is nominally victimless.

It is not, society itself is the victim as the drug user is wasting their potential and time on drugs instead of something productive. Not to mention the wasted effort and resources on producing the drugs and dealing with trouble users.

Many leisure activities serve no immediate purpose other than relaxation.

And many such activities ultimately are harmfull and defending them is a result of one's lack of self-discipline and lazyness.

I see you’ve ignored the socialization aspect of recreational drugs and their effects on the various arts too.

Both unnecessary, if one needs drugs to socialize, they need to seek medical help.

Uppers increase brain activity.

And typically have detrimental effects on the individual. There are risks and no benefits, therefor, ban.

Death penalty through crucifiction should be implemented in these cases.

The US is the de facto leader of the West, if it embargoes a country, it is embargoed by the West as well.

That is an arbitrary classification. Call it what you want, it still is a substance that heavily alters one's mind and has no real use outside of medical use, and as such must be banned outside of medical use. There is no argument for recreational drugs of any sort, and before you say it, yes this applies to alcohol too.

Typical American to recite whatever this poem is to a non-American. Am i supposed to know or care what it means?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_against_North_Korea

Why are you lying?

Yes

Well thats not how real life works, and wondering about such experiments is a waste of time, its never going to happen. The situation with Korea is only resolved through war as long as the US is involved.

The West in general, atleast in its current form.

What is commonly refered to the political West. The political bloc based on Western imperialism, im not going to list every country.

America, land of degenerates

Excuses, if South Korea was so damn certain of their superiority, they'd allow unrestricted immigration into the North, afterall, isn't this the reverse of what you're saying?

I agree, just end the military occupation by the US first.

Good riddance to groomers

Ok, we cant do such an experiment though, as neither country allows moving to either one. Tell me, why doesn't South Korea allow their citizens to even enter North Korea? Surely the freedom and liberty loving South Korea should allow this freedom to their citizens, are they not confident in their absolute superiority?

Yes please lets do that. Which system has twice the higher birth rates? Which system has more than twice larger military? Which system is self-sufficient? Which system has preserved their national culture and hasn't degenerated into little USA? Which system survived a genocidial war and being sanctioned by almost the entire world?

The two Koreas are a perfect example indeed, the South is for the degenerate liberals who only care about their access to fast food and porn, while the North is for patriots that wish to preserve their unique culture and way of life.

South Korea’s perfectly able to disinvite the United States it whenever it wants.

Lmao, sure

Let’s not move the goal post. The theory we’re testing is that North Korea is superior to South Korea for the civilians. So we don’t need to change anything to test this theory. Just open the border. And let anybody move with no restrictions. That’ll help us see which is better for the people.

Its not moving any goal posts, remove the hostile precense first. Btw, why do you think South Korea needs to bribe any possible defectors with almost a million dollars? Surely just escaping the horrible North would be enough incentive? Why are there so few North Korean defectors, and even some of them complain how the North was better?

You're making it seem like the country is split only due to the North. As if it is their decision.

North Korea invaded South Korea as much as revolutionary Americans "invaded" loyalist Americans.

North Korea indeed did have some troubles in the 1990s, which is to be expected when one is cut off from all support, yet they pulled through well and are now self-sufficient. One can't say the same about South Korea with its worsening living conditions and plummeting birth rates, and this is with Western support.

I suppose you support killing millions of Koreans and bombing 70% of Pyongyang? Afterwards sanctioning the country to hell?

Good

North Korea's biggest sin is surviving a genocidial war against them by the US, the West simply cannot forgive such transgressions.

More like you care a bit too much for children.

A gay pediatrician? Cant make this shit up