You mean returning to the homeland after the Holocaust to a country as per UN resolutions , self-defense from terrorism in civilian areas (like suicide bombers and rockets into cities), and unilaterally disengaging from the Gaza Strip in 2005 while giving millions of dollars to a corrupt system that embezzled most of what wasn't used to build weapons and terrorism infrastructure and teach children to love death and murdering Jews in their beds like they did on October 7th
I guess you don't realize that there are a good portion of Israelis that are not white.
Immigrants from Arab countries, Ethiopia, India, and others. These Jews were persecuted in their countries and suffered from pogroms and murders against their population there. In a similar situation you would call anyone else "refugees" yet somehow these Jews are called colonists and white supremists?!
GTFO of here with that shit
Would you have the same response if it was said about the KKK?
Your core premise is wrong since there is nothing to "give back" to Palestinians. There were no Palestinians back then. The so-called disputed territories in the West Bank were, if anything, Jordanian. The Gaza strip was Egypt, and even they don't want it. In the Egypt-Israel peace agreement, Egypt wanted Sinai back but did not want the Gaza Strip.
Do you honestly believe that if Israel gives up its military, there will be peace?! Every time Israel says peace-for-peace or even land-for-peace, it quite literally blows up in our face. There is no compromising with an organization whose main goal is to kill you. It's in their charter, and they have more than proved their intentions over the years, and most recently, just now to start this war.
We Jews have learned our lesson after hundreds of years of being persecuted to not trust other people to protect us. We all know how that turned out in the holocaust. Hamad are the Nazis. Hamas is ISIS. Never again means never again.
What's unhinged about having enough of a terrorist group shooting rockets at civilians, brutally murdering, raping and kidnapping civilians from their homes?
May you never see that happen in your country, to your family and friends, and have other people on the other side of the world get on their high horse and claim disproportionate response. What is the proportionate response? Go decapitate some babies in Gaza? Rape and butcher kids in front of their parents?
These numbers you're hearing are from the same people who claimed a rocket that hit a hospital was shot by Israel killing 500, which turned out to be shot by Hamas and killed 50. They are known for blowing up their own people as well as the numbers. They have the whole Pallywood industry of terror behind it.
That being said, Never Again means Never Again.
You mean the less than 1 million Jews in the British Mandate in 1948 who accepted the UN resolution for 2 States and were attacked by the Arabs in the British Mandate and all the neighboring Arab countries? I don't think you know what ethnic cleansing means. SMH
Just like Shifa Hospital isn't used as a terrorist base.
Terrorists threaten and infilitrate even legitimate organizations in a corrupt government
Daesh and Hamas have the same agenda - killing everyone different than them. Decapitation, rape and indiscriminately murdering innocent families in their homes. Add to that the Muslim factor and you have your similarity. Both ISIS and Hamas are much more ghan "vaguely Muslim". Calling me a racist doesn't change those facts.
The solution is eradicating Hamas like ISIS was (mostly) eradicated. Did you cry racism when war was being waged against ISIS?
Get off your high horse
Try to separate the civilians from Hamas, and yeah, starve the terrorists and supply aid to the civilians they have removed from harm's way.
According to your faulty logic, it would be a hell of a lot easier to literally bomb everything without warning nor humanitarian corridors
Except Israel is a country that wants to live in peace and Hamas has IT IN THEIR FUCKING CHARTER that they want to kill all Jews.
And when Hamas actually acts on their charter, the whole world goes shocked-Pikachu-face and condemns Israel for self defense and not agreeing to just be killed
Getting your death count from a terrorist organization known for lying and inflating numbers is ridiculous.
When Hamas hide and build a shitload of terrorist infrastructure in civilian areas, you evidently get a lot of leveling happening, destroying that terrorist infrastructure.
Israel does more than any other country to minimize civilian deaths. But I'm sure you know about Hamas using civilians as human shields and outright shooting Gaza civilians trying to get away from the area
Why the /s ?
It's war. War has unfortunate and unavoidable casualties. Israel didn't choose this war and has done everything it can to avoid it. Including pulling out unilaterally from the entire Gaza Strip in 2005.
The Palestinians were left to govern themselves and elected Hamas. Hamas has received hundreds of millions of dollars in aid from all over the world, including Israel. Israel supplied water, electricity, gas, fuel and work permits in Israel. Yet, instead of Hamas choosing to build civilian infrastructure and help the Palestinians, the leaders embezzled millions and the cose to build rockets and terrorism infrastructure and pay terrorist salaries.
Israel stood by and watched the world turn a blind eye, again and again, to rockets being fired i to civilian populations. Name one country that would allow that to happen to them and wouldn't retaliate. We're done with the so-called "proportionate responses". What is the proportionate response to decapitated babies? To butchered toddlers? To kidnap and rape, and abduction of the elderly? There is no peace to be made with an organization that lives up to it's charter claiming its intentions to kill you. Israel and the Jewish people swore that the holocaust would never happen again.
Never again means never again.
Hamas is ISIS and needs to be eradicated.
Pretty shitty genocide if the population keeps growing...
This isn't a fucking game where you take turns.
Retaliatory actions that prevent the next attack ARE self defense.
"Once the attck is over" - gtfo of here with that shit. Like you can actually say, "Oh, they pressed pause. Let's all go back home until they unpause"