Hehe, the actual "old internet" resembles the fediverse of today, it's what we thought the internet was supposed to be back then. Once corporations found the internet, we got the bullshit we have today.

Despite what advertising executives believe, the majority of us would gladly pay if it meant not having to deal with ads. I hate ads so much.

Democracies work when the voting populace is educated and informed. Unfortunately, humanity willfully avoids being either in favor of opinion and bias.

Reddit: You can't be private, people need to see the content, reopen or else!
TIHI: No.
Reddit: Fine, mods are gone and we've reopened the community. People who want to be mods speak up
Crickets: Cricket noises
Reddit: This sub is unmoderated, so it's now banned so nobody can see it

So... Reddit just reclosed the sub they said MUST be open.

Sound logic. Real class act.

"Far Right" and "Extremist" are not Christian. Christian is John 13:34

"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another."

That's what being woke is. Loving one another, regardless of how we may or may not have sinned.

I actually sent spez a private message on my way out, calling out what an arrogant hypocrite he is. He probably won't ever read it, but man it felt good writing it.

@v13 Here's what I wrote to him, in case you're interested.

Dear /u/Spez,

I am tired of the value I provide as a contributor and user of Reddit not being fairly compensated while Reddit makes money. I'm gone until I start getting more money than you do for my content. It's not fair that you should be making money for something I freely provide.

Yeah, that's YOUR argument, funny how it doesn't go both ways, isn't it? You're such a hypocrite, and your ego has killed any desire for me to interact with Reddit anymore. You provide infrastructure, and you provide a name brand, and that's all you provide you arrogant little man. Your users provide all the value to Reddit, and they don't get paid either. Stop acting like you provide any fucking value, because you don't. You are pathetic.

Aren't these the same people who claim that an unborn baby has every right to live, even if they're only like 4 cells and still dividing? Does like... that right to life just end once they're birthed? I really don't get how these people justify their stupidity.

Whenever people say "Somebody should do something!" they very rarely ever add "and the somebody is me"

As a divorced father who lives alone, my dearest hope is that my own kids learned enough from me to do something like this as well.

The only reason I keep FB around at this point is that's honestly the only way I have to contact a certain sub-section of people. The messenger app is the only real reason, that and FB is the new Classmates.com lol

ETA: I believe FB is dead in terms of what it once was. My GenZ teenagers seem to think so, and honestly so does almost everyone else I regularly actually interact with. What really killed it in my eyes is when they began targeting what showed up in your feed, instead of the old default "all, newest first". And over time it became harder and harder to find how to do "all, newest first". Once that happened, it was inevitable it would become the violently divided echo chamber it is today.

@operator
ELIZA has entered the chat.
ELIZA: Is it important to you that the humans behind the comments?

Ad companies can't handle the idea that people don't want to be hit with ads every 5 minutes. "Well, it's just BAD ads"... no, it's having my experience constantly interrupted.

/r/ModCoord is polling subs, a lot of support still for indefinite blackout

There were us knowledgeable early adopters who were ridiculed endlessly by ... pretty much everybody ... who actually worked to build the thing. Then the companies came.... and brought with them the ignorant, unthinking majority of the lowest common denominator who believe everything they're told to believe. I call it stolen. The consumer class that followed the corporations didn't build this place, nor did they represent what we had built.

allow ordinary users to vote moderators out more easily if their decisions aren’t popular. He said the new system would be more democratic and allow a wider set of people to hold moderators accountable.

blinks loudly What could go wrong? 🤣

I think the people in favor of defederation are looking at how Meta has handled similar situations in the past, and inferring from past behavior how they are likely to act in the future.

Ironically, this platform of federated smaller servers makes it impossible for users to hold an entire "subreddit" hostage like is happening on Reddit. It also makes it impossible for any one company to decide what the future of the Fediverse looks like. As my girl Martha would say, "It's a good thing."

Back in Reddit, I might have also have seen this in "TalesFromTheFrontDesk", which is another one I'm missing over here right now. It's one of those great "ticks the boxes of both" stories.

Right, like.... take like Hulu. $+5/mo and I don't see ads? I don't even have to think. Done.

Hehe, a Spez dispenser

I actually used the newer official desktop site, and really didn't mind it at all. What I minded was Reddit acting like their company was Reddit. No, you just provided the website and infrastructure. You were not Reddit. WE were Reddit. And we liked Reddit as it was, not what you are turning it into to make a quick buck on your IPO. We didn't appreciate providing ALL the value and then being treated as if we weren't important or to be listened to. I'm tired of good sites being whored out for mega-bucks and then transformed into another sub-par lowest common denominator that is a ghost of its former self. I'll skip the wait and pain of watching that happen yet again, and leave now.

So yeah, I wasn't a third party app user, but in the long run I'll still be effected by everything corporate management is doubling down on right now.

@DarkFox That's good to hear, it wasn't shitty enough as it was.

@Powderhorn @StenSaksTapir

I think you're right. It's been my impression that a lot of the people over at Reddit who don't care, are the ones who are reading, not writing. I've sadly gone back, to at least provide an alternative with a magazine I started, and it feels very uncomfortable now.

Well said, and so true!

@Suedeltica So, I've been around for what is turning out to be a long time now, and I can tell you that pre-web-based internet, I used to BBS a lot. And the fun thing there was we were online with people within our long-distance calling range basically. So we had that early sense of online community, but with people we eventually ended up meeting up with in real life once we got old enough to drive and be unsupervised and stuff. And the BBS's are long, LONG gone now, but these are some of the people I'm actually RL closest with to this day. So I guess I'm saying, yeah, the networks they come and go, and the people come and go too, but we do end up keeping the ones who really matter. FB isn't the first to disappear, and it won't be the last. The world changes so much, and there will be something new eventually. There always is.

Comments are heavily focused on the title of the article and the opening paragraphs. I'm more interested in peoples' takes on the second half of the article, that highlights how the goals companies are touting are at odds with the most likely consequences of this trend.

Man I miss George Carlin

Can spontaneously manifest any variety of cheese

Dude, it'll be totally radical this time around! No psych!

The CPU bottleneck in 1 was my biggest gripe, with needing to load EVERY active asset at game load into RAM a close 2nd. On demand asset loading would help a lot as well.

Maybe I'm browsing the fediverse at work and hardcore porn is frowned upon, so blurred thumbnails absolutely should be an option, if not the norm.

The ones who stay probably do see themselves as powerless, which is a pretty self-fulfilling prophecy.

... because you are the target of those kinks

Yeah, I'm at 7. With kbin still being actively worked on, basically still a prototype, and then just being exhausted from full stack web development all day, my desire to make something cool that may disappear in a month is just really low.

I miss altavista, but not as much as I miss webcrawler. Webcrawler was THE best once upon a time imo.

I reviewed the Reddit app at 1* because it honestly is a steaming pile of shit sorry excuse for an app, especially considering how long it's been in this state now without any improvement.

eyes the climate of earth nervously

Whoever doesn't want the job. Seriously, if you WANT the job, you should immediately be disqualified.

@anathema_device - Love the username, Gaiman and Pratchett are my top two favorite authors.