Considering, it may be worth highlighting that tools like Jax exist as well (https://github.com/google/jax). These have even become an expected integration in some toolkits (e.g., numpyro)
It may not be the most elegant approach, but there's a lot of power in something that "mostly just works and then we can optimize narrowly once we find a problem"
It doesn't make a solution that solves this mess bad, but I do wonder about it being a narrow niche
@maegul
In a real way it feels like there's a "hump" with language adoption. Some languages clear it, some don't, and I don't think we have a good feel as an industry for what makes a language "successful" in this regard.
Some things obviously help, other things obviously hurt, but mostly what succeeds or doesn't seems to be a matter of luck intersecting with need.
@programming