racemaniac

@racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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It’s fascinating which angle you’ll take on next :).

Keep trying :)

It’s fascinating which angle you’ll take on next :).

Keep trying :)

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As someone else already posted, the 3GB was incorrect, it was a router reporting incorrect traffic.

But that doesn't seem to stop everyone here from continuing to post how the thing that didn't happen in the first place is ridiculous...

I'm kind of wondering what forums you visited.

What however is a recurrent issue with young people on forums is them asking questions that have already been answered a million times. On sites like reddit & discord, that's the norm, we need new content all the time, the 526th person asking just keeps the social media going.

On forums however the etiquette is that you do some effort yourself, and something that gets asked that often is either a sticky, or a long running thread with all the information you could possibly want (but you'll need to invest some of your own time to get the information from there). And if you then arrive on the forum, read nothing, and ask the same question... again... yeah... you won't be welcomed with open arms.

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That's one way of viewing it i guess. My guess would have been that an organization like Mozilla has to make sure what the consequences are for not complying, and after they figured out there was no real danger they did the right thing.

It's easy to say they should always do the right thing, but they have to keep in mind their own safety, and that of their project too, it's not an easy thing to balance.

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I would really love to hear your explanation why you thought the sky gave it away XD

That's like the most regular looking sky ever XD

Keeping up a server that allows migration has negligable costs for a product the size of minecraft. There is no excuse....

I agree with most of your points, but i don't entirely like the "this is not intelligence" line of thought. We don't even know yet how to define intelligence, and pattern recognition sounds a LOT like what our brains do. The hype is of course ridiculous, and the ways it's being used is just stupid, but i do think pattern recognition could be a solid basis for whatever we end up considering intelligence.

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Isn't the main difference just that forums are focused on longer discussions, and reddit/lemmy are focused on a constant stream of content?

I'd prefer forums for a lot of my interests, a well managed forum will contain long in depth discussion regarding important topics that the likes of lemmy/reddit/discord either don't, or if they do, good luck finding it. If however you just want to visit it in the morning and see something different than you saw yesterday, yeah for just raw speed of content, forums suck.

But is that really better?

Do you always change the topic to try and "win" online discussions? And act so unnecessarily hostile for no reason at all to people who want to have interesting online discussions?

I find the topic of whether it's intelligence the most interesting part of this. It raises a lot of questions. That the current hype is ridiculous that a lot of the energy expended on it is a complete waste, and that most of the ways AI is used is beyond stupid isn't even worth talking about, that's just plain obvious.

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Lol, wtf XD

"That doesnt change anything about the current situation even if thats true though."

Yeah, i assumed me writing "I agree with most of your points" conveyed that. Do you always imagine random things to attack instead of just reading what people actually write?

wtf O_o

I just don't like people being like "but it's not real intelligence" while we don't even know what intelligence is, and we're thus avoiding the one part of this stupid hype that could be interesting:: philosophical questions about our own intelligence/humanity/....

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Don't agree with this, there's a huge difference between a forum and something like lemmy: how what you see is determined. On a forum as long as discussion is happening, a thread stays on top. On a more social media site like this, things only remain relevant a couple of days at most, while forum threads can go on for years. That makes sites like this more focused on short and shallow discussions, where forums imo allow for more in depth discussions.

Without actual examples it's really hard to tell if the forum was just a toxic environment, or you were the newbie not reading the room. I've seen both happen.

Once it becomes too big the forum admin should realize it's time to make a subsection regarding that topic XD.

Forums for sure aren't perfect, but a 20 page forum thread that does a deep dive into a topic with a lot of good contributors beats anything i expect to find on discord or lemmy.

[citation needed]

But yeah, that's the kind of discussion i'd love to see in more depth :). When would an AI be considered intelligent? It used to be passing the turing test, but now that's being achieved the goalposts are moving, and that's maybe for a good reason, but what will be the actual measure :).

"Their system is really good and years ahead of competition but there’s still a shit ton to improve"

Is it years ahead of the competition? I thought the consensus was that Tesla is far behind, hence why Mercedes is the first brand to actually have some basic level 3 automomus driving actually to customers, and companies other than tesla are actually doing tests with robo taxis. Tesla is good at claiming it can do the above, other companies are the ones actually doing it.

And indeed, there's a shit ton to improve, which directly contradicts statements Elon Musk made, and keeps making. As others already pointed out, calling it Full Self Driving while letting it do that is basically suicide is just the beginning. Elon Musk regularly repeating that it's there, it works etc... only to leave customers waiting for nearly 8 years now with a system that is not what Elon described, etc...

Self driving is really hard, Tesla made some good progress on it, but Elon continuously lying about it should indeed get legal consequences. I'm hope this lawsuit teaches him to actually talk about things he actually knows are true, and not just what he wishes was true.

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Yes, it can do that. Occasionally. And then it'll randomly fail in the stupidest ways.

And i've actually looked at some Tesla FSD reviews, and every review seems to be of a "2 steps forward, 2 steps back" kind. Look at all these things that improved, and then mentioning all the things that used to work that are now broken again. (of course with a lot more focus on the things that have improved, since hype pays).

I'm honestly wondering how self driving will evolve, it seems we've landed in the really hard last 10% of getting there, and it's mostly come to a stand still.

That for sure is a problem with all modern bullshit technologies they want to hype in order to get people to use/buy it.

Look at smart tv's... everyone assumes they're awesome since they're smart tv's, that's of course better than a regular tv. They'll of course never mention that this just means that it's a tv with a 100$ android box embedded that they'll abuse to try to serve you extra ads, that they'll not bother to update so your tv becomes obsolete in a couple of years, and that you can achieve the same thing by just buying the android box sepearately and connect that to a regular tv, which won't make your entire tv become obsolete when the cheap android box doesn't get updated anymore...

So yeah, i can imagine you have an issue with it being marked as (competent) AI.

Dude, just stop. You're looking for things that aren't there. Period.

I find it an interesting question whether it's intelligent or not, and find it sad people throw out that question together with the rest of the hype. It's not "my favourite word", and i'm not projecting my hostility. You just can't seem to handle someone bringing any bit of nuance to a discussion....

And me projecting hostility XD. yeahhhh.... introspection isn't one of your gifts it seems XD. I'm the one being hostile XD. roflmao XD. I mean just here "your favorite word"... wtf dude, exaggerate much to make yet another pointless jab at me?? I'm not allowed to find this an interesting question without you painting me as someone who fixates on that one thing in the world and makes it sound as if my world revolves around "AI IS INTELLIGENT!!!!!!"... I'm not even convinced it is, but i find it a mighty interesting question that requires more thought than it's getting.

Sorry for trying to argue something i find interesting on lemmy. I'll just shut up next time and not try to bring up points you might not find interesting since you seem to take that as a personal offence, while you could have just shut up and let the adults have a nice conversation on the one interesting part of this hype.

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Who's talking about abroad? Maybe they have peoplke in russia working on the project and they need to check their safety?

He just means it's been all over the tech internet lately, and he has a point.

of course not everyone knows everything, but this and the humane AI pin have been featured everywhere as they're the first companies bringing llm focused AI products to market, and are generating a lot of hype, get a lot of critical articles, and a lot of youtube videos & investigations regarding them.

Not hearing about the Rabbit R1 when you followed tech news the past month was harder than playing whamagheddon during christmas time. So i get his surprise, and i don't think his reply was mean spirited, it was hard to avoid hearing about it.

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It was indeed a very short flash not long ago :).

And i'm not at al interested in those products either, but they were hard to miss when that flash happened >_<.

roflmao XD I'm sorry, but you trying to sound smart by saying how much energy a kg of U235 has, and then using the wrong unit (a unit of power, not of energy) is just the funniest thing ever XD.

And yeah, nuclear waste is kind of solvable, but it will be an issue for at least a thousand years to come, and that's a LONG time... I can get that environmentalists are like "yeah, this is just another way of shoving our current issues FAAAAR into the future". Even if we just bury it all in some safe space....

What if you destroy the physical media so noone else can use it and then keep your digital copy in its place?

Are you intentionally missing the point that someone still has to prove you did it? Or do you just want random people to be convicted of murder since murder isn't allowed?

Yeah, i've for sure become hostile after you attacking me because i dared to talk about something you didn't find interesting on a public forum...

Dude, take the loss and stop talking. There is no both sides to this, you were an asshole to me for no reason and now want to keep talking to evade the shame of having been wrong. I'm sorry, you were wrong. Learn from it and let it go.

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roflmao XD

You projecting you being upset onto me being upset XD. Yeah, i called you out, and now you're trying every troll trick you know to weasel out of it and get the last word :).

And if you like being wrong and want to keep proving to me how wrong and childish you are, sounds like a great time :). Keep replying and keep trying all those troll tricks to not feel like you lost a discussion on the internet, i'm sure it's worth it XD.

I must admit this has become somewhat amusing for me too, seeing which argument you'll try this time to somewhat save face :).

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Ah yes, now i'm thinking about you all day XD. It's totally not me coming onto lemmy, seeing i got a notification and seeing you going another round of embarassing yourself :). But keep it up :). This is funny to see :). You're persistent for sure :).

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Keep going, might end up having to write a little script to automate keeping you busy :).

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It's fascinating which angle you'll take on next :).

Keep trying :)

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It’s fascinating which angle you’ll take on next :).

Keep trying :)

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Why don't you ask the experts that rather than a random lemming like me? And why don't you ask Elon why he keeps claiming it's capable of more than it actually is?

I honestly don't care enough about it to do research, but you seem to. And i'd just love for guys like Elon to stop lying about what they have.