I've also talked to some of these folks, and my strong sense is that they are teenagers who have never been to any of these places, or really understand much about the complexity of global systems
I also get the strong sense that the vast majority are from North America, which greatly limits their perspectives. It's very easy to see this in simple calculus terms when the war isn't going on right over the border and has the potential to destroy a sibling country (Moldova, I'm Romanian).
I have a strong sense that a lot of them aren't people, they're CCP LLMs.
I honestly don't think that's the case. This seems to me to be people who have an ideology (fair enough, we all do) but then see the entire world and everything around them through this black and white filter where everything either supports the cause or doesn't, and anything and everything is justified in support of that.
Why don't you think it's the case? The CCP and Kremlin want to take down the current rules-based international system, and using LLMs on social media is an incredibly cheap way to do it.
If you think we're a big enough or influential enough of a target for moving the needle on public opinion here on lemmy, I have a bridge to sell you :))
I do get where you're coming from, but I do feel like you're running from bushes thinking they're bears.
Have you seen how many people use the fediverse? It would be easy to set up bots in this relatively unmoderated space and spread propaganda.
Rules-based international system? Did you copy and paste from a right-wing think tank or something? I always thought that phrase was a joke for rich Americans to say when they carpet bomb a wedding and the military gets away with it. You can sleep at night peacefully, I'm sure, since China and Russia would need at least a decade or two to finish the job.
But if your "rules based system" collapses because Chinese bots are posting memes in communities with a few thousand followers, then it deserves to happen.
There's definitely a lot of teens and young adults in those spaces, on both sides.
I've also talked to some of these folks, and my strong sense is that they are teenagers who have never been to any of these places, or really understand much about the complexity of global systems
I also get the strong sense that the vast majority are from North America, which greatly limits their perspectives. It's very easy to see this in simple calculus terms when the war isn't going on right over the border and has the potential to destroy a sibling country (Moldova, I'm Romanian).
I have a strong sense that a lot of them aren't people, they're CCP LLMs.
I honestly don't think that's the case. This seems to me to be people who have an ideology (fair enough, we all do) but then see the entire world and everything around them through this black and white filter where everything either supports the cause or doesn't, and anything and everything is justified in support of that.
Why don't you think it's the case? The CCP and Kremlin want to take down the current rules-based international system, and using LLMs on social media is an incredibly cheap way to do it.
If you think we're a big enough or influential enough of a target for moving the needle on public opinion here on lemmy, I have a bridge to sell you :))
I do get where you're coming from, but I do feel like you're running from bushes thinking they're bears.
Have you seen how many people use the fediverse? It would be easy to set up bots in this relatively unmoderated space and spread propaganda.
Rules-based international system? Did you copy and paste from a right-wing think tank or something? I always thought that phrase was a joke for rich Americans to say when they carpet bomb a wedding and the military gets away with it. You can sleep at night peacefully, I'm sure, since China and Russia would need at least a decade or two to finish the job.
But if your "rules based system" collapses because Chinese bots are posting memes in communities with a few thousand followers, then it deserves to happen.
There's definitely a lot of teens and young adults in those spaces, on both sides.