"There can be no peace with Russia, just as there could have been no peace with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in 1945," says researcher

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There Can Be No Peace With Russia
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"There can be no pax russica. This is what would result from a surrender to the self-described peace lobby, a disparate grouping that never specifies just how many Ukrainian concessions would be possible and acceptable," says Nicolas Tenzer, Chairman of the Center for Studies and Research on Political Decision (CERAP) and guest professor at the Paris School of International Affairs (PSIA, Sciences-Po).

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You don't have to be a researcher to understand that. Just don't be Elon Musk.

Pootin probably has compromat on Elon. Rumor is that back in the early 00s when he was looking to buy a rocket in Russia, the FSB enticed him with a minor.

They also have compromat on Trump.

Can't know for sure, but the fact is that Elon is risking a nationalisation of SpaceX right now and I find it hard to imagine he sympathizes hard enough with the Russians to lose SpaceX.

I think we need to stop overestimating dictators and engaging in this kind of conspiracy so much.

Putin isn't a chessmaster. He's a strongman. People around him fall in line because they rightfully fear violent retribution.

People overseas that take pro-Russia stances do so for the same reason they cleave to any conservative politics -- they're grumpy, unskeptical simpletons. Musk and Trump are not victims of Putin's grand strategy. They're just bad people.

I agree, Putin/Russia having kompromat on everyone and everything, while based on some kind of historical truth, is absulutley an overblown conspiracy.

As far as trump goes, I personally believe "probably" not in a pp tape way, as if those ever existed, we would have seen them by now. I absolutley believe Putin had hard paper trails/evidence that trump was, and still is massively inflating his net worth, and all the weird bank stuff in the EU

Fundamentally, we do not live in an era where personal secrets can be kept. If someone knows about it enough to blackmail you, then it's going to get out.

And even then, it doesn't matter. These people are immune to blackmail. If you think about it at all, it doesn't make sense. Blackmailing Trump? What does that even mean? He'll just say it's fake news and lies, that any evidence is proof of a conspiracy against him. That any prosecution is a corrupt witch hunt led by his enemies.

What POSSIBLE evidence could we have that would change the minds of the American people about him?

  • A history of sexual abuse perversion, and rape? Already a matter of record.
  • Shady financial dealings? Again, we already know it -- and a prosecution is underway for some of the specifics that may yet sink his organization (but, notably, will probably do little to him personally).
  • Attempts to subvert American Democracy and elevate racism and bigotry? He's proud of that.
  • Individual fraud and larceny? His supporters think it's totally fine for him to give all his kin cushy government jobs they are unqualified for and to force the CIA to pay for deluxe packages in his hotels.
  • Implicate his family? He doesn't give a shit about them and is the entire reason they're involved in any case. The abused abuse.
  • Grand, national corruption and treason? He proudly accepts the Saudi money and makes public requests for help from the Russian intelligence services.

Anyone who hasn't already 100% made up their mind about Trump is too much a fool to have new evidence changing their perspective at this point. And the story with a Musk type is barely any different.

Not just fear, they love strongmen. Women get fucking wet over the confidence and men want to be him.

It's stupid human Bullshit and should be shamed for simping at every opportunity.

You know, even granting the hypothesis that someone wanted to fuck a minor (and such people obviously exist, it's not a major stretch) why in the fuck would you do it in Russia where they have a long and illustrious history of honey trapping fools?

Oh.

When asked correctly, it really kind of answers itself, huh.

You don't understand how compromat works.

The KGB doesn't say: hey, want to fuck a minor on cam?

They might use seduction, flattery.

Fuck, they might even just use a very petite 20 year old and give her a fake passport proving she's actually 15. Or maybe use a body double.

The KGB have perfected their art.

Russia has a satellite that's capable of downing other satellites. I think Putin threatened to screw up starlink.

I don't think that would work. Individual Starlink satellites are cheap, and they launch dozens at a time.

Yes, shoot down an American satellite.

Lol, they would never dare. That would require a very heavy handed response by the USA.

You don't have to be a researcher to understand that.

Absolutely right, but it's nevertheless important to repeat that over and again.