Goodbye Youtube and thanks for all the fish
Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don't get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.
Then on Oct 1, they threw up a "You're using an Ad Blocker" overlay on videos. I'd use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn't have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.
Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.
Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.
Now all I see is this.
Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.
I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can't view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.
If only peertube had the same culture as Lemmy and Mastodon.
But it feels like, imo, Peertube has fallen to the same pitfalls as other YouTube alternatives. 99% of vids I see on Peertube instances are far-right conspiracy theory videos among other obviously abhorrent content that would otherwise be banned on youtube.
Nebula.tv has lots of excellent videos, a healthy community of creators, a sustainable business model, a lot of good communication between subscribers and management, and I believe is not in financial trouble so far. It's not free, but it's affordable.
As a former Nebula subscriber, here's my hot take: it also has no real community and no chance for exposure to the up-and-comer (IE no way to breakout since it seems invite only?)
I've found so many great YouTube channels filled with deep experience and expertise before they "catch on" (and some never "catch on"). The ability to find the small, powerful voice who's just trying to share knowledge...
I'm not defending YouTube/Alphabet here (as a company they're no better than any other), I just think Nebula isn't a great alternative and unless things change, can never be. It's a walled garden in too many ways (paywall/creator invitations).
In the year I subscribed to Nebula, I mostly watched the same videos on YouTube. If they were technical enough there was valuable discussion attached to the video; on Nebula that's not the case and not possible. Even if it was possible I can't imagine people fragmenting their discussion spaces between YouTube and a closed ecosystem like Nebula.
Don't even get me started with their (Nebula) inability to build a video queue -> wasting time and space on a poorly thought-out implementation of Autoplay was a terrible decision that further pushed me off the platform.
It's sad, I really wanted to like it. But I voted with my dollars and left.
(am the same person you replied to)
i actually don't disagree much with your points. i still watch most of the videos posted on both platforms on youtube, not Nebula, tbh.
for me it's mostly because Nebula haven't made an official Kodi addon yet, and the unofficial one (by slyguy) often has buffering issues (which i don't blame on slyguy).
i sometimes "fake watch" good videos again on the nebula website to help that creator boost their revenue share of my subscription. a very clumsy hack.
all that said - i am very glad that the videomakers i follow seem happy with Nebula, and since they say it's helping them make better videos, i will continue to subscribe.
i don't know about the 'invite only' thing. i have recommended in yt comments to a couple of people i often watch (Joe Blogs is one, i think also Our Own Devices, DiodeGoneWild, perhaps also Denys Davydof and/or Jake Broe) that they should ask about joining, but i assume my messages weren't seen, in the depths of yt comments. as for if it's easy for new creators to join, again don't know for sure but there seem to be some regular Neb uploaders without much/any yt presence.
Thanks for engaging!
I should comment on my poorly phrased use of "invite only" -> I mean that from the creators' perspective in case I fumbled that one. IE, I can't just decide to share on Nebula, I have to be invited (seemingly by the creator personally? Ref: https://www.theverge.com/23076663/nebula-youtube-creator-business-future-startup-ceo-dave-wiskus).
Video Just has fundamentally different hosting cost for processing and bandwidth. Amongst the big streaming providers only Netflix makes a profit. Twitch is not profitable, either.
I just want to point out that a corporation not making a profit doesn't mean they're not making money. It means they've spent the money on something and then in the accounting they can call it an expense instead of profit. But they still made that money and they still have something to show for it.
That’s revenue, not profit.
Revenue only becomes profit if you let it.
Got $1m in revenue that you don't want to declare as profit? Purchase some assets and now you have $1m expense instead.
Yeah, sure. Doesn't change the other point
I guess what I'm saying is that although your first point is true, your second point doesn't actually support it.
the peertube instance im on seems to be not allowg vids