Interesting that the same record happened in neighbouring greece. Interesting to see if there are regional dynamics in this? Humans are influenced by their physical surrounding
We just have very low paychecks and you can’t really afford to have children unless you accept to have a shitty life. I didn’t for example. Freedom and money? Sign me up for that shit
It's a common justification given, but it's not true. The same happened in almost every advanced european society in the 80s, when things weren't unaffordable. Urbanization is probably the largest contributor to this, because children are absolutely optional in city dwellers.
We should stop pretending we can reverse this trend, and the whole doom-saying around it. Instead southern europe needs to plan for the medium-term future, which necessarily include the transformation/abolition of the unsustainable welfare state paradigm built in the 80s.
Nah, the only unsubstainable welfare in a liberal democracy is welfare for the donor class.
Oh I completely agree and am happy population is reducing. But Italy’s cities are not getting bigger and most people live in suburban/agricultural areas. We are a very fragmented country made by thousands of small towns with a few thousands inhabitants and that didn’t change. There is no help for families with children and house/rent prices are high, it’s just hard.
Surprise, humans are also influenced by whether they can afford a house and kids on a single income.
Housing definitely plays a role. Or to be more precise, the culture of housing in your neighborhood.
If we all moved near the romani shantytowns, our birth rate would skyrocket 10x
Interesting that the same record happened in neighbouring greece. Interesting to see if there are regional dynamics in this? Humans are influenced by their physical surrounding
We just have very low paychecks and you can’t really afford to have children unless you accept to have a shitty life. I didn’t for example. Freedom and money? Sign me up for that shit
It's a common justification given, but it's not true. The same happened in almost every advanced european society in the 80s, when things weren't unaffordable. Urbanization is probably the largest contributor to this, because children are absolutely optional in city dwellers.
We should stop pretending we can reverse this trend, and the whole doom-saying around it. Instead southern europe needs to plan for the medium-term future, which necessarily include the transformation/abolition of the unsustainable welfare state paradigm built in the 80s.
Nah, the only unsubstainable welfare in a liberal democracy is welfare for the donor class.
Oh I completely agree and am happy population is reducing. But Italy’s cities are not getting bigger and most people live in suburban/agricultural areas. We are a very fragmented country made by thousands of small towns with a few thousands inhabitants and that didn’t change. There is no help for families with children and house/rent prices are high, it’s just hard.
Surprise, humans are also influenced by whether they can afford a house and kids on a single income.
Housing definitely plays a role. Or to be more precise, the culture of housing in your neighborhood.
If we all moved near the romani shantytowns, our birth rate would skyrocket 10x