Emotional outburst on live TV from Gaza over death of reporter encapsulates collective grief
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“No one is looking at us or the extent of this disaster or the crimes that we are experiencing in Gaza,” he said. Still holding his microphone, he slid off his flak jacket marked with the word PRESS and unstrapped his helmet.
“These protection jackets and helmets don't protect us,” he said, flinging the equipment to the ground. “Nothing protects journalists. ... We lose our lives for no reason.”
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Sounds like it was a bad idea for the Gazans to put them in charge of their government. Maybe they should do something about that
They took power illegally years before the literal majority of Gaza citizens were even born.
Edit: My apologies, the ones that are almost legal adults would have been infants or toddlers at the time Hamas seized power. They really should have done something about that while they were learning how to walk and speak. /s
Okay, and? I'm sorry, my dude, but Hamas won the election before they illegally seized power, and it's not like the people of Gaza have tried to do anything about that. Who is supposed to do it for them?
Yeah, it sucks that sometimes the citizens of a nation pay the price for the actions of their leaders. But who else can change their leaders for them?
You're talking about a population with extremely limited resources that is literally 50% (or more) children that has been under two fascist boots for the last decade and a half. There does come a point where a level of desperation combined with a possibility of a better future will instigate a revolution, but right now? They don't see a possibility of a better future. With Israel's Likud on the other side of the wall and no resources to rebuild after a coup, what's the point in gambling everything on maybe being able to overthrow the more local oppression?
Also, education in Gaza is very inconsistent and most political revolutions are started by people with education and nothing to lose.
Okay? What, am I supposed to say that the people supporting genocidal lunatics aren't doing that because they have a shitload of kids? How does that change jack or shit?
Or do you think Israel shouldn't defend themselves because the people relentlessly attacking them have a bunch of children? What is the path towards Hamas no longer launching rockets and attacks at Israel?
How many kids did "those" genocidal lunatics kill?
Hundreds. One would be too many, as they are perpetrated by the official government of Gaza.
So how many is "too many" for Israel to have killed? Or do the citizens of Gaza not count the same way Israelis do?
Well, since Israel is the party which is defending itself, they have the right to go after Hamas. And since Hamas hides among civilians, if the civilians of Gaza get tired of falling victim to collateral damage, they should talk to Hamas about it.
That's not answering my question. How many Palestinian lives is too many?
That's a question only Hamas can answer
Why does Hamas have insights into your personal opinions and beliefs?
They're the ones with control over the course of the war and how long it will take before it ends. They are the ones who control how many Palestinians die, at least until and unless Palestinians get tired of falling victim to the violence Hamas inflicts on them and does something about them.
I think you are misunderstanding how the demographic shift in Gaza has happened. They didn't have a baby boom, it's just that many of them do not survive very far into adulthood because of violence, health and environmental problems, and, when they can manage it, emigration.
Secondarily, I'm interested to hear how you justify calling Hamas genocidal without making the same observation about the Likud and Netanyahu.
Dude they have been having a huge population boom for a long time. Population growth rate is 2% per year. PER YEAR.
Likud and Netanyahu are far right nationalists. In that sense, they're like Hamas. I am not a fan of them. The difference is what they're willing to do to promote the interests of their state. Netanyahu and Likud have lines they won't cross, Hamas doesn't. If Netanyahu was as deranged as Hamas, they'd nuke Gaza and just go in and slaughter the population. I am glad they have those lines.
The fact that Netanyahu has supported Hamas in the past as a foil to the PA says otherwise to me. To a certain extent, Israel has made its own monster out of Hamas and Gaza through their policies and positions.
There's some of that but at the end of the day, the people of Gaza and the leaders of Hamas are responsible for their own decisions.
Your right, perhaps we go punish the skeletons in North Korea next?
If North Korea starts a war, its people will bear the brunt. But that's a bad comparison - Hamas was elected.
Maybe tell that to the children (who are 2 out of every 5 murdered) who didn't even exist for this definitive election of yours. It's a fine comparison. It's been so long since either event that your blaming a currently suffering group for the mistakes of it's predecessors, and it rings just as gross and hollow. Why don't you tell me how women should dress so they don't get raped?
Idk man shit sucks sometimes, but the people of Palestine have agency, and the Gazans chose their government.
That's the best fucking joke I've heard in a long time. Gazans have zero control over their situation. Maybe it's telling that they elected Hamas, (almost 20 goddamn years ago when half their population wasn't even born yet, I might add) who they felt were the only option to get them out of apartheid.
Bombing the shit out of population is a great way to breed extremists, and it will continue to happen as long as the ethnic cleansing continues.
They had enough control to put Hamas in power and spend like two decades launching rockets at Israel
Did you read anything past the first sentence? I swear you guys are all illiterate.
Isreal famously never did anything to provoke those rockets. They definitely didn't spend the last 75 years systematically dispossessing Palestinians and subjecting them to extreme violence.
Facts don't serve their narrative well. That's why anti-intellectualism is so key to fascistic rhetoric.
I honestly can't tell if these people are racist, or just extremely misinformed and chirping about a topic that they have no education in.
I think a fair amount of it is people being surprised that reality doesn't match what they've been told. And that cognitive dissonance takes them time to work through. And it's much more comfortable to say that's not what war means, that's not what genocide means, that's not what ethnic cleansing means....
And of course they're surrounded in a media soup using obtuse language to give them the impression everything's fine.
I honestly expect most of these denial commenters don't have an investment either way in the conflict. They just have an idea of someone is right, and they put everything into that narrative scope. It takes time to build nuance.
I'm betting both.
Yeah sometimes when you start a war and lose, it sucks. Maybe the various Arab nations should have thought about that
Jesus Christ are you talking about 1948? You are actually talking out of your ass and have no idea what you're saying. Go read about the Nakba and come back.
1948 and all the other wars and intifadas started by Arabs intent on a genocidal pogrom
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantura_massacre
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre
Just 2 examples of many, many Zionist genocidal massacres. Read a fucking book.
Even if you were somehow correct, you're basically arguing that Palestinian children today should pay for the crimes of nation-states 3 generations ago. Completely reprehensible.
Look dude I'm not saying the Israelis fart the smell of roses, but the wars were started by Arabs. Read a fucking book sometime.