"No war but Class War" people [Rule]
Edit for those curious why I shared this: Today !memes@lemmy.ml was popping off with a lot of "No war but class war" memes and they were getting a lot of support from the people over there.
I tried to share this there as well only to find out that apparently I was banned over there last week and I still have a week left in my ban. (Never knew I was due to never being told I was banned?)
Only reason I even found out I was banned over there was due to checking the modlogs for lemmy.ml after I noticed my post was gaining no ground.
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What oppressed minority is excluded when we focus on class war, specifically?
It’s not so much that some people are excluded, but rather that class war won’t solve a lot of problems specific to (intersections of) minority groups. That’s a point that’s pretty easy to miss if you’re not part of a discriminated minority, even if you’re aware of the need for class war.
The counter argument is that the systemic injustices that exist are perpetuated primarily through it being convenient to maintain the status quo.
A capitalists system like this needs a underclass to siphon wealth from.
Thus by fighting the class war you inherently will be tearing down the pillars upholding these injustices. If you get enough Republican voters to have class consciousness the culture war will fall apart on its own because it primarily exists to keep those groups distracted.
I agree, but racism, sexism, … won’t disappear just by abolishing the capital class. It is a huge step towards it, but not the absolute final goal.
I would just disagree with this by pointing out how civil rights leaders like famously MLK Jr actually took the class-first approach and understood that it was economic inequality as a symptom of capitalism, from which "minority groups" and our notion of things like racial identity itself emerged out of. The Populist movement half a century earlier in the US had a similar approach as well, the Jim Crow order was just as much an economic order imposed by the capitalist landowning class to address the threat of the Populists as it was a racial order. Adolph Reed Jr's book The South: Jim Crow and It's Afterlives is a really good explanation of how this worked from a left perspective.
There's a dialogue that continued post-MLK about his support or non-support of the queer community, his widow used his words in support and his daughter used them against. Engaging in some of the academic writing around this specific topic is an interesting way to approach the subject and form your own opinion. Especially in the context of the Christian socialism he advocated, which gets in to cultural issues in a way that's sort of more measured and detached from contemporary culture war hysteria.
Don’t get me wrong, a class first approach is probably the most effective way to reduce hate and bigotry on a societal level. My only point was that it isn’t the only thing that’s necessary to completely eliminate it.
Could you provide some examples though?
Sexist attitudes won’t disappear just by abolishing the capital class, to name an example. It will definitely help though, because the capital class benefits from our current internal divisions and actively encourages it.