Bernie Sanders stops GOP senator from fighting teamster president at hearing: 'You're a United States senator!'

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Bernie Sanders stops GOP senator from fighting teamster president at hearing: 'You're a United States senator!'
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I don't care if those "tough guys" want to slog it out, but the choice of time and place shows such a serious lack of common sense that it would be alarming for a professional fighter, not to mention an elected representative.

The guy thought that, when challenged anytime anywhere, there and then, in Congress, during a hearing would be a good time and place. smh

I don't care if those "tough guys" want to slog it out

Okay well, what you care about has zero bearing on whether or not these actions are childish.

but the choice of time and place

The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge.

One of those people is not a US Senator. The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet. The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time. Both these decisions are absolutely unfit for a US Senator.

Go fucking meet the guy behind a 7eleven after work or something like that. But nooo, the Senator said "here is a place, now is a time" because he needed to look like a tough guy in front of cameras.

One of those people is not a US Senator.

I don't understand why you're telling me this like I don't know.

The Senator was the one bringing it up, getting all worked up over a Tweet.

A Tweet where he was challenged to a fist fight.

The Senator, chose "Congress" as the place and "during a hearing" as the time.

After being challenged "anytime, anywhere".

Either you are trolling or being intentionally obtuse because being a Senator absolutely has a bearing on this. He should have a modicum of decorum, professionalism, political savvy, tact, and respect for his office.

He should know better. He got clowned by some tweets and should be embarrassed that he printed them out then brought them up in an official hearing then challenged a guy to a fight. Its a joke and makes a mockery of the senate.

Okay at this point this conversation has devolved to name-calling and repeatedly straight-up lying about the events that transpired so I think it's safe to say you have no interest in an honest discussion. Bye bye now 👋

I think it's unreasonable to take the literal meaning od 'anytime, anywhere'. Like, if he was attending a funeral and the senator turned up and challenged him there, would that still be appropriate? How about if he was visiting a kindergarten? While he's helping an old woman cross the road? Performing first aid on an injured person?

There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate. You could say that the challenge itself was childish and I would agree. But the anytime, anywhere condition doesn't make it unconditionally ok for the senator to pick this time and place.

There are still times that are appropriate and not appropriate.

There are no times or locations that are appropriate to challenge a grown man to a fist fight, as if that somehow would settle the differences.

Honestly I agree. I just don't think that excuses the Senator from actually accepting the challenge at that time and place (or arguably any time and place, but especially that one). Two wrongs don't make a right...

Which of my comments did you perceive as excusing the senator?

The choice of time and place is irrelevant when the instigating party said, and I quote, "anytime, anywhere", and then when their challenge was accepted, stood up, ready to engage in said challenge.

In response to people saying that the Senator acted inappropriately. But perhaps I misinterpreted. Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree, but I'd still say tweeting a challenge is less inappropriate than actually accepting that challenge at that time and place.

Are you saying they both acted inappropriately? In which case I agree

Yes that is exactly what I've said.