Surveillance footage shows Hamas bringing hostages into Shifa Hospital on Oct. 7

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Surveillance footage shows Hamas bringing hostages into Shifa Hospital on Oct. 7
timesofisrael.com

The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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As if being anti-Israel means that Al Jazeera throws journalistic integrity into the wind? If the facts are valid, they're valid regardless of what the spin being put on them is.

UN-mandated body says Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh the ‘victim of the excessive and disproportionate force used by Israeli security forces’.

Gee, I sure wonder why Al Jazeera would be anti-Israel...

Bias needs to be taken into account, but it does not invalidate good reporting on its own. It’s the same reason I don’t immediately believe all statements from the IDF. They are a party in the conflict and extremely biased. They are however a valuable source of information and their claims should be considered. I would also rank the credibility of the IDF over the credibility of Hamas.

Other comment got reported, but still doesn't change the fact that you're comparing two bad sources and trying to pick one that's less bad.

If Hamas starts releasing verifiably false videos to Western audiences, then I'll discredit that too.

If Hamas starts releasing verifiably false videos to Western audiences, then I'll discredit that too.

Are the countless numbers of staged videos not verifiably false enough for you? They literally operate a filming crew making victim propaganda.

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As if being anti-Israel means that Al Jazeera throws journalistic integrity into the wind?

Actually yes, that's exactly what they've done time and time again.

How, when?

Well the most obvious example is the strike on that hospital killing 500 that ended up being a failed PIJ rocket landing on the hospital parking lot killing 10-20 people.

As far as I’m aware there is no conclusive evidence that it was a PIJ rocket. You can only really believe that if you actually trust the IDF.

You rather believe Hamas that it was an Israeli rocket when all available evidence verified by multiple governments claims to the contrary?

I will believe the findings of a third party investigation which the UN has called for. The “evidence” provided by the IDF is not at all conclusive. As I said, you can’t pretend otherwise unless you trust the IDF.

Sure, just keep your blinders on and keep going. It's not like other governments corroborated that or anything. A fact you chose to clearly ignore in the comment you replied to.

So I’m supposed to believe “other governments” that you have yet to name over the UN?

US, Canada, France. I would hope so. Even better, you could have looked it up yourself.

The US and Israel are the only one making strong claims about who is responsible. France and Canada statements were not conclusive and did not “verify” Israel’s supposed evidence like you said. I think I’d rather wait for a third party investigation before I conclude that Israel, the country who’s had killed over 5000 children in little over a month, is free from culpability in this one instance.

So 3rd party US is not enough of a 3rd party...

Sure, the country who provides bombs to Israel so that they can drop them on Gaza is a totally neutral third party and not Israel’s #1 supporter. Lol

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