Hamas had not planned to attack music festival, Israeli report says

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First police investigation of Supernova festival also found Israeli forces responsible for some deaths.

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Bro, Israel was founded by UN decree. The Palestinians were given the same deal, they were actually offered a better deal in the 30s and refused. It wasn't founded by terrorism, it was defended from immediate attack by its Arab neighbors though.

FFS, the Palestinians had millions of dollars set aside for them to set up their government and society, funding that Israel was never provided.

I'd suggest you read the UN declaration before going about spreading disinformation.

Jews are indigenous to Judea. To claim they're colonizing their Homeland is laughable. Palestine isn't even an Arabic word, they're colonizers from the Arabian Peninsula for crying out loud. It's crazy that narrative took off.

Palestine isn’t even an Arabic word, they’re colonizers from the Arabian Peninsula for crying out loud. It’s crazy that narrative took off.

Okay I was gonna actually respond to your points but the moment you said this I realized you don't know much about this conflict. Palestinians are also natives of Judea, now called Palestine.

Do you understand how and why the name Palestine was given to the area? Palestine isn't an Arabic term at all, that's because the people who you say are indigenous to the area came from the peninsula.

Sigh. Seriously read a book. Or no read a Wikipedia article.

Like in other "Arabized" Arab nations, the Arab identity of Palestinians, largely based on linguistic and cultural affiliation, is independent of the existence of any actual Arabian origins

Palestinians share a strong genetic link to the ancient Canaanites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#Origins

You're currently spreading Israeli propaganda.

I've read a few books on my way to a masters in geography with a minor in middle eastern history. Just a few.

Like in other arabized nations, they colonized the lands to establish themselves there. That they can be genetically linked to the region is only proof that they've been there for an extended period which no one disputes. They've been there since they ethnically cleansed the region originally.

I’ve read a few books on my way to a masters in geography with a minor in middle eastern history.

Either this is bullshit or you need a refund on your degree.

That they can be genetically linked to the region is only proof that they’ve been there for an extended period which no one disputes.

It feels like you didn't even read what I wrote/quoted. Modern Palestinians have a strong genetic link to the ancient Canaanites. Not Arabs, the Canaanites. There was no ethnic cleansing of Palestine after the Arab conquest, and if there was you're gonna need a really good source (you won't find one because it doesn't exist).

Hold up, are you trying to argue that after a thousand years of interbreeding the genetic lines are clear there?

Seriously? Of course they're integrated after all this time.

Okay now you're contradicting yourself. Didn't you just say that Arabs ethnically cleansed the region? Then who did they interbreed with? You know what no need to answer, after that minor in middle eastern history either way you're knowingly spreading propaganda despite knowing it's wrong. Get a life.

No contradiction. They've routinely attempted to cleanse the region, in parts having success but never quite getting the job done. Jews are tough to get rid of as the Arabs and Germans etc have found out. You gonna claim that the Holocaust wasn't an ethnic cleansing? There were Jews in Germany when that ended.

That you're attempting to use this as some gotcha, shows your ignorance and desperation. You've tripped on your own stupidity there pal.

I've got a life, it's fulfilling and joyous. It's filled with the great admiration of the Jewish people and their history in the region which brings endless joy to all around.