What is this about "bundling up"? Literally no one said anything about bundling up. But 68 and 86 are just fundamentally different temperature categories.
you bundle up at 68f for normal ideal summer temps? Or is 68-86 Gigantic enough you need long sleeves?
68 means you may or may not need a jacket, depending on the wind, fog, etc. It also means you should probably carry a jacket because it's likely to drop down below "t-shirt" weather when the sun goes down. 86 means you'll likely not need a jacket at all, even at night. And it means the wind will be refreshing rather than biting. And it might mean shorts as well.
Like, I just don't believe that you can't understand how 68 and 86 are fundamentally different temperature categories
68 is shorts and T-shirt weather in my part of the world. No one carries a jacket around if it's that warm. Maybe it's cold to you if you live between the tropics? I can't speak to that
20-30c is a cool shortcut that F doesn't really have. The original comment is just a decent guideline and "I just don't believe that you can't understand" what a guideline is.
But if you need all this stuff to exist outside in nice weather maybe a quick guideline is not for you...
20-30c is a cool shortcut that F doesn’t really have.
What kind of shortcut? 68-80 are so massively different. Even if 68 is shorts and t-shirt for you, that means 86 is "uncomfortably hot". And even if 68 is t-shirt weather, it means at night it's going to drop probalby 10 degrees. So 68 is "tshirt weather right now, but bring a jacket", and 86 is "tshirt weather but leave the jacket at home". and the 10 degree bands of F are perfect for that. 60s is "cool, may or may not require a jacket depending on your preference". 70s is "nice right now but prepare for cool when the sun goes down", 80s is "warm, don't bring a jacket", etc.
So sure, we don't have the "20-30c" shortcut (again, way too big to be useful). We have EVERY 10 degree band as a shortcut
68-80 are similar temps. I'm comfy at both. I wear the same thing outdoors at both temps.
I'm sorry you don't I guess and are offended that someone else is different than you.
20-30 is easier to understand than 68-80 for most people (obviously there's an exception)
Yes, 68 to 80 are somewhat similar. I obviously meant 68-86.
But 68-80 IS similar, and it's exactly why F is better, because we have the 70-80 band. But that's exactly the point, 68 and 86 are NOT similar temps, hence being in separate 80-90 band.
Yes obviously.
If you read the discussion that you were actually having to me, we were obviously talking about 20-30c, which is 68-86F. And it was mentioned several times in this thread. And the context of my reply made it abundantly clear I meant 68-86
Yes I mistyped 80vs86. but that percentage of 100 is similar enough that I can't really tell the difference.
I was agreeing that 68 and 86 are both T-shirt weather. Still is to most folks. I get it you're not most folks.
I'm imagining your place as just filled with coats and thermometers that you care about this to such an extent.
Yes I mistyped 80vs86.
Oh, thought you were being sarcastic.
But are you seriously saying you can't tell the difference between 68 and 86? That's absolutely absurd
I’m imagining your place as just filled with coats
Yes I live in San Francisco, I have several coats.
and thermometers
My thermostat and my phone. So "full"
Correct I literally can't tell the difference. That's 100% what I'm saying. (Yeap that was sarcasm)
I'm saying 68 and 86 are both T-shirt weather. And 20-30 is more meaningful to me than 68-86. That's it. That's all.
And 20-30 is more meaningful to me than 68-86. That’s it.
Of course it is, because 68-86 is just the translation. No one would actually use that range. But that's my whole point, 60-70 and 70-80 are better, more meaningful ranges
Meaningful to you. not to most folks.
After all that you're fine with "eh it's just translation." then why not try a system that has some meaning to it at all instead of arbitrary numbers. At least that's what literally everyone else is saying to you in the comment section.
And hey you can decide 20-25 is not T-shirt weather for yourself and 25-30 is. Crazy right?
68 is not t-shirt weather for a lot of people.
What is this about "bundling up"? Literally no one said anything about bundling up. But 68 and 86 are just fundamentally different temperature categories.
68 means you may or may not need a jacket, depending on the wind, fog, etc. It also means you should probably carry a jacket because it's likely to drop down below "t-shirt" weather when the sun goes down. 86 means you'll likely not need a jacket at all, even at night. And it means the wind will be refreshing rather than biting. And it might mean shorts as well.
Like, I just don't believe that you can't understand how 68 and 86 are fundamentally different temperature categories
68 is shorts and T-shirt weather in my part of the world. No one carries a jacket around if it's that warm. Maybe it's cold to you if you live between the tropics? I can't speak to that
20-30c is a cool shortcut that F doesn't really have. The original comment is just a decent guideline and "I just don't believe that you can't understand" what a guideline is.
But if you need all this stuff to exist outside in nice weather maybe a quick guideline is not for you...
What kind of shortcut? 68-80 are so massively different. Even if 68 is shorts and t-shirt for you, that means 86 is "uncomfortably hot". And even if 68 is t-shirt weather, it means at night it's going to drop probalby 10 degrees. So 68 is "tshirt weather right now, but bring a jacket", and 86 is "tshirt weather but leave the jacket at home". and the 10 degree bands of F are perfect for that.
60sis "cool, may or may not require a jacket depending on your preference". 70s is "nice right now but prepare for cool when the sun goes down", 80s is "warm, don't bring a jacket", etc.So sure, we don't have the "20-30c" shortcut (again, way too big to be useful). We have EVERY 10 degree band as a shortcut
68-80 are similar temps. I'm comfy at both. I wear the same thing outdoors at both temps.
I'm sorry you don't I guess and are offended that someone else is different than you.
20-30 is easier to understand than 68-80 for most people (obviously there's an exception)
Yes, 68 to 80 are somewhat similar. I obviously meant 68-86.
But 68-80 IS similar, and it's exactly why F is better, because we have the 70-80 band. But that's exactly the point, 68 and 86 are NOT similar temps, hence being in separate 80-90 band.
Yes obviously.
If you read the discussion that you were actually having to me, we were obviously talking about 20-30c, which is 68-86F. And it was mentioned several times in this thread. And the context of my reply made it abundantly clear I meant 68-86
Yes I mistyped 80vs86. but that percentage of 100 is similar enough that I can't really tell the difference.
I was agreeing that 68 and 86 are both T-shirt weather. Still is to most folks. I get it you're not most folks.
I'm imagining your place as just filled with coats and thermometers that you care about this to such an extent.
Oh, thought you were being sarcastic.
But are you seriously saying you can't tell the difference between 68 and 86? That's absolutely absurd
Yes I live in San Francisco, I have several coats.
My thermostat and my phone. So "full"
Correct I literally can't tell the difference. That's 100% what I'm saying. (Yeap that was sarcasm)
I'm saying 68 and 86 are both T-shirt weather. And 20-30 is more meaningful to me than 68-86. That's it. That's all.
Of course it is, because 68-86 is just the translation. No one would actually use that range. But that's my whole point, 60-70 and 70-80 are better, more meaningful ranges
Meaningful to you. not to most folks.
After all that you're fine with "eh it's just translation." then why not try a system that has some meaning to it at all instead of arbitrary numbers. At least that's what literally everyone else is saying to you in the comment section.
And hey you can decide 20-25 is not T-shirt weather for yourself and 25-30 is. Crazy right?