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EVs less reliable than conventional cars: Consumer Reports

The annual car reliability survey by Consumer Reports found EVs are 79 percent more likely to have problems than conventional cars. Consumers reported electric drive motors, charging and EV batteries had the most common issues associated with EVs, according to the survey.

Jake Fisher, senior director of auto testing at Consumer Reports, noted that there may be “growing pains” among EVs because they are based on new technology or are being manufactured by new upstart companies, such as Rivian. He said companies “need some time to work out the bugs,” according to the magazine.

Plug-in hybrids are more likely to have more issues than gas-powered cars, EVs and hybrid vehicles. The survey said that plug-in hybrids have 146 percent more problems than gas-powered cars.

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One brand brings the average down. Can anybody guess which one? 🤔

Rivian, according to the article. Saved you a click.

Yeah, the problem is it isn't Rivian. I own one, and I previously owned the actual shitty brand.

“Rivian and legacy auto makers” saved you another click.

Tesla, bud. Sorry to tell you, it's Tesla that sucks.

So then according to consumers and Consumer Reports, Rivian is twice as bad, thanks for making sure everyone looked into it, glad you’re just trying to keep yourself honest.

Mini at #3 is the most shocking part of this.

People love their Minis, bruh.

Oh I love them too. My family has had a few and all of them have had major mechanical failures at under 100k miles. They are just more cheaply made BMWs after all.

Hilarious that you included the graphic proving you aren't talking about EVs, but hybrids, phev, and bev. You're confused about the topic being discussed, clearly.

Go ahead to their ratings page, select BEVs, and order by score. You'll kind the EV6 is at the top. If you had actually read their entire article, you would see that they said PHEVs are less reliable than BEVs as a class.

“Oh no you brought facts and information to my feelings!”

Cope more.

Says the one that quoted a partial sentence to try to support their bullshit take. The article literally says this is the first year that CR recomments the MODEL Y, and only because they suspect the drivertrain issues have mostly been solved. After 7 years of production vehicles. Amazing stuff.

I'm guessing you're an investor but not an owner to be working this hard to bend what CR reported. What a shame.

I’m just pointing out the data from the article we are all referencing my dude.

Glad you love your Rivian so much, though! I’m all for EVs and hope it serves you well for a long time.

The problem is, you aren't. Because here's what they actually said in the article:

“Most electric cars today are being manufactured by either legacy automakers that are new to EV technology, or by companies like Rivian that are new to making cars,”

Simply stating the fact that most EVs are made by, existing companies or startups. Literally the only two choices that there are.

Source: https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/electric-vehicles-are-less-reliable-than-conventional-cars-a1047214174/

The Model Y comment:

Its Model Y, first introduced for model year 2020, is recommended by CR for the first time this year, with owners reporting fewer issues with its suspension, in-car electronics and general build quality than in previous years.

Again, pointing out that after four years of producing the vehicle, they finally have fewer owners reporting issues with major components of the car. and as they note in the article, they aren't weighting the problems that consumers report for the severity of the issue or the criticality of the component, but just counting any issues whatsoever that required repair.

This isn't even a controversial thing, CR has reported it multiple times. You simply didn't bother look at the source, don't understand the breakdown between Hybrid, PHEV, and BEV, and you're here pretending the article came to a conclusion that simply IS NOT stated anywhere within.

If you're interested in actually reading what CR has reported about most reliable EVs, you can find that here https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/hybrids-evs/best-electric-vehicles-from-consumer-reports-tests-a3759669425/

Do better next time. Bye.

How many years until they recommend Rivian is acceptable to you? Or did they do that already and I missed it?

Rivian started to release cars in 2021, so they better work on getting out of 28/30 place in another year or two according to your own logic.

Let's hope they do better.

Do send along the CR report where they put Rivian in 28/30. I look forward to that, because your graphic wasn't on the CR site, or The Hill's article about the CR article.

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