Netanyahu says Israel will retain open-ended control of security in Gaza long after war with Hamas

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Netanyahu says Israel will retain open-ended control of security in Gaza long after war with Hamas
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The exact issue is that Israel is repeating both the holocaust and apartheid all at the same time.

Since fucking when is it NOT an issue that people don't have the same rights? Wtf

Repeating those words like a mantra only serves to dilute them because you're using them inappropriately.

Both Holocaust and apartheid generally refer to denying people rights or killing them because of their genetics and that's clearly not what's happening here. Israel is at war with Palestine because Palestine keeps trying to murder Israelis, not because of Palestinian genetics.

Isrsel is indiscriminately bombing a whole ethnic group. How can you deny this?

If you think anything happening is remotely comparable to the Holocaust, you don't know anything about the Holocaust. If Israel was trying to exterminate Palestinians the way the Nazis tried to exterminate the Jews, Gaza would be a sheet of right now.

I also don't have the right to vote in Israel, which makes sense, seeing as I don't live there and I'm not a citizen. I weirdly don't have the right to vote in Germany or Russian either.

I know that one time a holocaust survivor spoke of the thirst she felt during that time and how it was indescribable, and I think of all the missing Palestinians that had their bones crushed to rubble as they waited for hours to be rescued, and all those that didn't survive. I think of how Israel dehumanized them and ethnically cleansed them, how they held back fuel and medical supplies that could save innocent lives, and I can't help but draw comparison. The message of holocaust survivors was clear: Never again. Never again doesn't mean denying it when it happens again. Never again means Palestinians too.

And that comparison is flawed, because there is a fundamental difference between a systematic effort to murder a population and a careless disregard for collateral damage during military operations.

Both are shameful; only one is a genocide. If you broaden the meaning of genocide to refer to any war operation that fails to sufficiently protect civilians, you've suddenly labeled most of military history as genocidal.

The bombing of Dresden was horrific, but it was not comparable to the literal Holocaust happening at the same time.

Israel is systematically wiping out Palestinians. If you can't see that, I can't help you.

The UN and all other organizations qualified to comment on the mateer have called it genocide.

Indeed you can't, because if that Israel's aim, they've been doing an incredibly bad job given that the number of Palestinians has increased by a million in the last ten years.

Whereas I don't recall the Jewish population of Europe doubling during the second World War. But sure, these are basically the same thing.

Israel practically showed intentions and plans to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from Gaza. On top of that, they actually did lots of masacres and a fucking Nakba to prove it.

the days of "lol if Israel is doing genocide then why are there Palestinians left alive" are over, I'm afraid

You would never dare say that against Jewish people. But somehow Palestinians are not human enough.

Palestinians have kids, and people undergoing a genocide or war tend to have more kids to make up for the ones Israel kills. Get over it.

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You are being intellectually dishonest. We are not taking about a German with voting rights in Russia. We are talking about a population being colonized by Israel, being tortured by Israel, being denied their land, their basic human rights, and their right to self determination. Gaza is not France, Israel is not Russia. This is more like Americans wiping out the native population, or apartheid south Africa. Gazans had their citizenhood stolen from them by Israel. And on top of that they treat Palestinian Israelis like shit...

The only democracy in the middle east my fucking ass...

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