If the government has even the smallest modicum of dignity, he'll resign or be sacked. It's one thing to enjoy crass and offensive jokes, I certainly do, but there's a time and a place for such humour. I mean he's the Home Secretary for fucks sake! How in the world did he think that that kind of joke would go down well?
I've seen first hand the aftermath of someone's drink being spiked... It's not something I ever want to deal with again. Though I'll bet it was far worse for the unfortunate victim of it.
I mean he’s the Home Secretary for fucks sake! How in the world did he think that that kind of joke would go down well?
And this assumes it was a joke....if I were his wife, I'd be looking for a way to tell if I've been drugged or not.
He reportedly added that the secret to a long marriage was to ensure your spouse was “someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there.”
It 100% was a joke. Just a very inappropriate one.
Yeah,
There’s definitely a non-zero chance that he’s doing exactly that. Abusers frequently joke about abusing their partners; they see abuse largely as normal, and that’s why it’s okay to joke about it. If it plays poorly, everyone just thinks they have bad taste in jokes until the partner turns up dead.
Then it’s “we had no idea…”
It’s a glaring red flag, and it should be treated as such.
Holy shit, imagine thinking a self deprecating joke that basically implies his wife is too good for him is a huge red flag that he's an abuser and actually drugging his wife. Lol your arrogance and presumptuousness is extremely impressive.
HOLY SHIT... it's like you think jokes about abusing his spouse is actually funny.
It's not. People who make those jokes in public settings (or public-ish, I guess,) are more likely to be abusers. stop excusing it. Stop normalizing it.
you can be better than that.
No, I found a joke about a guy saying his wife is too good for him to be funny.
In fact, I think people who attempt to turn any off-colored joke into them being some terrible person who abuses their spouse to more likely be abusers themselves. As it goes, we often see the worst of ourselves in others. Stop projecting. Stop assuming everyone is as bad as you.
you can be better than that.
He's a total moron so I doubt he'd pull it off.
If you were his wife and you took that joke as a threat rather than a compliment, you'd be incredibly dumb.
"I drug my wife..."
Is a compliment? and speaking of dumb, i didn't say it was a threat- in the "I'm going to harm you..." sense. I said, if i were here, I'd go have them run a tox panel to see if he was really doing it. There are certain truths to humor, one of which is every joke has some element of truth to it... and the joke is fundamentally about abusing his spouse.
Is a compliment?
No. But you also took it out of context in a blatant attempt to misrepresent it. If it were actually so bad, you wouldn't feel the need to so grossly misrepresent it.
There are certain truths to humor,
Agreed. And in this case that truth could be that he thinks his wife is too good for him and he must go to great lengths to get her not to understand it.
the joke is fundamentally about abusing his spouse.
Actually, no, the joke was fundamentally about his spouse being too good for him.
So you don’t think drugging one’s wife…. Is spousal abuse.
Which was litteraly the joke. Drugging her. So she can’t escape.
Whose misrepresenting what, exactly?
Again, the joke is fundamentally about his wife being too good for him. If you won't even admit that, then what's the point of following your leading questions? You don't care about actually being reasonable, you care about justifying your outrage.
In case you're wondering. Rohypnol is commonly used as a date rape drug. And he's "joking" about dosing his wife "just a little bit" so she can't leave.
Do please explain how jokes that are literally about dosing one's partner with date rape drug so she can't leave you isn't spouse abuse. Also explain how I am being unreasonable here. Please, explain to me how I'm over-reacting and it's "just a joke".
Again, the joke is fundamentally about his wife being too good for him. If you won’t even admit that, then what’s the point of following your leading questions? You don’t care about actually being reasonable, you care about justifying your outrage.
If the government has even the smallest modicum of dignity, he'll resign or be sacked. It's one thing to enjoy crass and offensive jokes, I certainly do, but there's a time and a place for such humour. I mean he's the Home Secretary for fucks sake! How in the world did he think that that kind of joke would go down well?
I've seen first hand the aftermath of someone's drink being spiked... It's not something I ever want to deal with again. Though I'll bet it was far worse for the unfortunate victim of it.
And this assumes it was a joke....if I were his wife, I'd be looking for a way to tell if I've been drugged or not.
It 100% was a joke. Just a very inappropriate one.
Yeah,
There’s definitely a non-zero chance that he’s doing exactly that. Abusers frequently joke about abusing their partners; they see abuse largely as normal, and that’s why it’s okay to joke about it. If it plays poorly, everyone just thinks they have bad taste in jokes until the partner turns up dead.
Then it’s “we had no idea…”
It’s a glaring red flag, and it should be treated as such.
Holy shit, imagine thinking a self deprecating joke that basically implies his wife is too good for him is a huge red flag that he's an abuser and actually drugging his wife. Lol your arrogance and presumptuousness is extremely impressive.
HOLY SHIT... it's like you think jokes about abusing his spouse is actually funny.
It's not. People who make those jokes in public settings (or public-ish, I guess,) are more likely to be abusers. stop excusing it. Stop normalizing it.
you can be better than that.
No, I found a joke about a guy saying his wife is too good for him to be funny.
In fact, I think people who attempt to turn any off-colored joke into them being some terrible person who abuses their spouse to more likely be abusers themselves. As it goes, we often see the worst of ourselves in others. Stop projecting. Stop assuming everyone is as bad as you.
you can be better than that.
He's a total moron so I doubt he'd pull it off.
If you were his wife and you took that joke as a threat rather than a compliment, you'd be incredibly dumb.
"I drug my wife..."
Is a compliment? and speaking of dumb, i didn't say it was a threat- in the "I'm going to harm you..." sense. I said, if i were here, I'd go have them run a tox panel to see if he was really doing it. There are certain truths to humor, one of which is every joke has some element of truth to it... and the joke is fundamentally about abusing his spouse.
No. But you also took it out of context in a blatant attempt to misrepresent it. If it were actually so bad, you wouldn't feel the need to so grossly misrepresent it.
Agreed. And in this case that truth could be that he thinks his wife is too good for him and he must go to great lengths to get her not to understand it.
Actually, no, the joke was fundamentally about his spouse being too good for him.
So you don’t think drugging one’s wife…. Is spousal abuse.
Which was litteraly the joke. Drugging her. So she can’t escape.
Whose misrepresenting what, exactly?
Again, the joke is fundamentally about his wife being too good for him. If you won't even admit that, then what's the point of following your leading questions? You don't care about actually being reasonable, you care about justifying your outrage.
Go read the fucking article. here. I'll save you a click:
In case you're wondering. Rohypnol is commonly used as a date rape drug. And he's "joking" about dosing his wife "just a little bit" so she can't leave.
Do please explain how jokes that are literally about dosing one's partner with date rape drug so she can't leave you isn't spouse abuse. Also explain how I am being unreasonable here. Please, explain to me how I'm over-reacting and it's "just a joke".
Again, the joke is fundamentally about his wife being too good for him. If you won’t even admit that, then what’s the point of following your leading questions? You don’t care about actually being reasonable, you care about justifying your outrage.