When the ratio of civilian death to hamas death is far greater, you need to realise something is fundamentally wrong with the actions of the idf.
Additionally, reports of Jewish attacks on Palestinians are up too, which was high even prior to the war.
All that will happen is more people will join the cause to fight against the occupation of Palestine.
You all want to see an end to attacks you saw prior to the war, but you need to realise all that will happen is more hostility due to the wanton destruction of their home.
The leaders the idf seek are in Qatar, but they already knew this, which is why for weeks, the world was told this is a war against hamas the ideology they now state can't be destroyed!
Seems like to me that here we have the same thing that USA did with the wmd excuse.
According to Wikipedia, there have been 1,332 Israeli deaths, of which 395 were IDF. So, that's 70% civilians deaths on the Israeli side. The same article says that 61% of Palestinian deaths were civilian.
The fact that Qatar is harboring the Hamas government leadership is a problem. If Hamas surrenders, the war will end, but that will be difficult if the leadership is safely ensconced in Qatar and still has willing fighters in Gaza. How many deaths will be enough before Hamas surrenders, or the Gazans reject Hamas and new leaders emerge to make peace with Israel? Palestinians should popularly reject Hamas like the Italians eventually rejected Mussolini. As long as the population of Gaza supports Hamas in this war, it is a little bit hard to complain about civilian deaths.
While it's clear there were civilians killed by Hamas on the 7th, even Israeli sources have shown evidence that a large number of civilians were mistakenly killed by IDF attacks, it is unclear how many people were killed by IDF. Also, many sources will claim any male between the ages of 16-40 (military-aged male) killed was a fighter without any further verification, so it's difficult at this stage to say with much reliability the number of civilians versus militants killed especially in a place like Palestine with an active guerilla movement.
Hamas seems to be more of an organizing force than a specific ideology that all of Palestine supports, many people see the struggle against Israel as a fight for their people's survival and have turned to more extremist measures because of the failures of all other methods over several decades.
How is it at all hard to complain about civilian deaths in any conflict unless you are heartless? No matter what some of their population does the majority of people there are just living their lives and are in large part children.
I know why Palestinians support Hamas and certainly Israel's right-wing government also shares a lot of the blame for the current war. However, when the duly-elected and popularly-supported Hamas government chose war, they acceded to civilian casualties. They killed (and raped) Israeli civilians on purpose because they knew that the IDF would respond with overwhelming force, which would further their goal of discrediting Israel and undermining the normalization of relations with Arab neighbors. And they are supported in all of this with overwhelming public support in Gaza, not to mention Iran and Qatar.
When the ratio of civilian death to hamas death is far greater, you need to realise something is fundamentally wrong with the actions of the idf.
Additionally, reports of Jewish attacks on Palestinians are up too, which was high even prior to the war.
All that will happen is more people will join the cause to fight against the occupation of Palestine.
You all want to see an end to attacks you saw prior to the war, but you need to realise all that will happen is more hostility due to the wanton destruction of their home.
The leaders the idf seek are in Qatar, but they already knew this, which is why for weeks, the world was told this is a war against hamas the ideology they now state can't be destroyed!
Seems like to me that here we have the same thing that USA did with the wmd excuse.
According to Wikipedia, there have been 1,332 Israeli deaths, of which 395 were IDF. So, that's 70% civilians deaths on the Israeli side. The same article says that 61% of Palestinian deaths were civilian.
The fact that Qatar is harboring the Hamas government leadership is a problem. If Hamas surrenders, the war will end, but that will be difficult if the leadership is safely ensconced in Qatar and still has willing fighters in Gaza. How many deaths will be enough before Hamas surrenders, or the Gazans reject Hamas and new leaders emerge to make peace with Israel? Palestinians should popularly reject Hamas like the Italians eventually rejected Mussolini. As long as the population of Gaza supports Hamas in this war, it is a little bit hard to complain about civilian deaths.
While it's clear there were civilians killed by Hamas on the 7th, even Israeli sources have shown evidence that a large number of civilians were mistakenly killed by IDF attacks, it is unclear how many people were killed by IDF. Also, many sources will claim any male between the ages of 16-40 (military-aged male) killed was a fighter without any further verification, so it's difficult at this stage to say with much reliability the number of civilians versus militants killed especially in a place like Palestine with an active guerilla movement.
Hamas seems to be more of an organizing force than a specific ideology that all of Palestine supports, many people see the struggle against Israel as a fight for their people's survival and have turned to more extremist measures because of the failures of all other methods over several decades.
How is it at all hard to complain about civilian deaths in any conflict unless you are heartless? No matter what some of their population does the majority of people there are just living their lives and are in large part children.
I know why Palestinians support Hamas and certainly Israel's right-wing government also shares a lot of the blame for the current war. However, when the duly-elected and popularly-supported Hamas government chose war, they acceded to civilian casualties. They killed (and raped) Israeli civilians on purpose because they knew that the IDF would respond with overwhelming force, which would further their goal of discrediting Israel and undermining the normalization of relations with Arab neighbors. And they are supported in all of this with overwhelming public support in Gaza, not to mention Iran and Qatar.