I know the science behind the theory. Dude you have way too faith in states willingness get executions correct or that they'll actually care if asphyxiation via any type of gas is or isn't painful.
I have no faith in the state and I'm explicitly against execution. I support inert gas executions because I don't trust the state to use other means effectively. There is essentially no room to fuck it up. It's dead simple and requires minimal equipment or set up. You could fit enough nitrogen and masks to kill over 10 people in a backpack if you needed to. I don't care if they care if it's not painful. I know it isn't painful. Your contrarianism is hollow and based on nothing but your own ignorance
I wasn't wrong, they fucked it up. My comment was literally saying that it's still a viable method if performed correctly, which Alabama didn't do
The justice system can't even convict people properly and people still think they will get more elaborate ways of murdering people correct. They'll fuck this up every time because that's what they do
Oh geeze lol. Didn't even realize this was from a month ago. I'm an anarchist and prison abolitionist, I'm very much tuned in to the flaws of our system and am wholeheartedly against it.
The entire point of what I was saying is that this is less likely to fuck up and it's more humane when done properly. I regret that they botched this and know that it's going to be used as evidence against it by the state and people like you. The effects of botched lethal injections are significantly worse and it's likely they will continue to happen now.
Even with the complications of this execution I can all but guarantee you that this man suffered less than those that died of a flawed lethal injection did. What sounds worse to you, suffocating or being lit on fire from the inside? That's the choices people are faced with in this system. I feel compelled to restate (as I did several times throughout our last exchange) I think the death penalty is immoral and needs to be abolished, my arguments are purely pragmatic and I stand by them. If the state is going to perform executions, nitrogen is the way to go. I hope they alter their process because they clearly fucked this extremely simple method up.
Nitrogen isn't a more elaborate means of execution, it's simpler. They used the wrong mask and thats it. Your entire conception of the process is profoundly flawed
Of you actually cared about painless methods beheadings would be the go to regardless.
I think most people would prefer to remain intact if we're taking the victims wishes into consideration but sure. If you think nitrogen is terrible, go ahead and try to convince people that beheadings are the best way forward lol. You'll find yourself in my situation; arguing with people as unpleasant, uninformed, misguided, and willfully ignorant as you are. I wish you the best with your inadvertent journey to look in the mirror
I know the science behind the theory. Dude you have way too faith in states willingness get executions correct or that they'll actually care if asphyxiation via any type of gas is or isn't painful.
I have no faith in the state and I'm explicitly against execution. I support inert gas executions because I don't trust the state to use other means effectively. There is essentially no room to fuck it up. It's dead simple and requires minimal equipment or set up. You could fit enough nitrogen and masks to kill over 10 people in a backpack if you needed to. I don't care if they care if it's not painful. I know it isn't painful. Your contrarianism is hollow and based on nothing but your own ignorance
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Whelp you were wrong. Shocker
I wasn't wrong, they fucked it up. My comment was literally saying that it's still a viable method if performed correctly, which Alabama didn't do
The justice system can't even convict people properly and people still think they will get more elaborate ways of murdering people correct. They'll fuck this up every time because that's what they do
Oh geeze lol. Didn't even realize this was from a month ago. I'm an anarchist and prison abolitionist, I'm very much tuned in to the flaws of our system and am wholeheartedly against it.
The entire point of what I was saying is that this is less likely to fuck up and it's more humane when done properly. I regret that they botched this and know that it's going to be used as evidence against it by the state and people like you. The effects of botched lethal injections are significantly worse and it's likely they will continue to happen now.
Even with the complications of this execution I can all but guarantee you that this man suffered less than those that died of a flawed lethal injection did. What sounds worse to you, suffocating or being lit on fire from the inside? That's the choices people are faced with in this system. I feel compelled to restate (as I did several times throughout our last exchange) I think the death penalty is immoral and needs to be abolished, my arguments are purely pragmatic and I stand by them. If the state is going to perform executions, nitrogen is the way to go. I hope they alter their process because they clearly fucked this extremely simple method up.
Nitrogen isn't a more elaborate means of execution, it's simpler. They used the wrong mask and thats it. Your entire conception of the process is profoundly flawed
Of you actually cared about painless methods beheadings would be the go to regardless.
I think most people would prefer to remain intact if we're taking the victims wishes into consideration but sure. If you think nitrogen is terrible, go ahead and try to convince people that beheadings are the best way forward lol. You'll find yourself in my situation; arguing with people as unpleasant, uninformed, misguided, and willfully ignorant as you are. I wish you the best with your inadvertent journey to look in the mirror