The pretext is killing Hamas. No Hamas, no pretext. Even you can’t be this stupid - this isn’t a lie worth telling. If Israel isn’t trying to kill Hamas, are you just biting the bullet and admitting they’re committing a genocide to establish an ethnostate?
Yeah I struggle to understand why you're avoiding the whole matter of how "capture all Hamas members and release all hostages" is such a difficult concept to grasp and, therefore, a matter to fulfill. If someone actually wants to make IDF go home, that is.
As you point to the elephant in the room, there’s a pack of genocidal monsters gunning down every Palestinian in sight… not to mention a bunch of journalists, aid workers and Israelis - you’ll have to forgive my suspicion at your singular fixation on the elephant.
And there is also a thing that happened on October that involved quite a lot of stuff. A thing that would have prevented a lot of deaths, if it had not been done, you know. I'm not asking you to forgive my suspicion at your fixation on something that came after that. I'm telling that you are defending terrorists. Or, maybe, you even share goals with them.
Yes - calling Hamas monsters and many other negative things could only be because I am defending them and want them to do more useless attacks. Another lie too transparently stupid to be worth telling.
Well you're only calling them negative things when asked about it, and only to make others accept you as an adequate person, or stuff. Pretty simple concept to grasp - express something that you don't really feel, you know. Called a "lie".
Israel: We want to genocide Palestine
That didn't happen. Or, whatever the way you want to rephrase it, the ground operation decision was not made until what happened on October, happened.
Hamas: Thanks for the funding and helping us displace the secular moderates - I guess we’ll do exactly what we said we would and kill Israelis
So you're basically refusing the idea that Hamas could be adequate human beings, and think they can only operate as machines, or instruments in someone's hands. Too bad. It is they themselves who should take responsibility for their actions, not Israel.
I haven’t seen it as particularly relevant to comment on it the past few years - particularly when Israel were killing orders of magnitude more Palestinians while maintaining concentration camp conditions in Palestine.
Magnitude more than... ?
You still haven’t managed to condemn Israel
I don't need to condemn Israel. They are being watched, and are a subject to investigations and prosecutions, or whatever the world community decides will be needed. Hamas is a whole different beast - there is no one to bring them to justice as there are no proper institutions in Gaza for that to happen.
comparatively minor evils of Hamas
Comparatively... minor...
Okay look I got a new explanation for you. Simple one. Hamas did this to themselves, and to all Palestinians in the process. Why and how? Simple.
Hamas: We enjoy killing and can't care enough to build anything that would help our citizens in their lives. we will make them into terrorists and teach them to enjoy killing. So when Israel comes for us, they will have the whole Gaza to fight against. The more Palestinians are killed by Israel, even by accident - the more terrorists we will have at our disposal. * invades Israel to mercilessly kill/rape civilians and take hostages * Come at us, Israel, we need you to kill our people or else we won't have enough terrorists.
Israel: Well you asked for it. We tried our best, even gave jobs to your people and provided you for your needs but you wasted all resources into missiles instead. Too bad that you can't get your shit together.
Hamas: Thank you! Can't wait to die as heroes from your hands and give rise to a terrorist army.
Simple concept, don't you see? Current genocide is the intended result of Hamas' actions - they needed someone to come and kill a lot of people. Israel's evils are comparatively minor, they are merely being used as instruments.
Also, could you maybe explain why would someone call someone else Jitler, and why would someone assume someone else knows what "Torah" is?
If my active, repeated condemnation of Hamas is support, based on your self-contradictory, transparently dishonest, frequently Incoherent, cowardly and genocidal rambling, it's safe to assume you're currently raping a Palestinian baby to death, and I don't particularly need to be a part of that.
Yeah I think it would help everyone to waste less time if you could spill out exactly that in the first place, instead of ramblings towards the Jitler guy and Torah stories.
You're getting upset about a little name calling while defending a genocide? Why would I care, Jitler?
Only upset about finding that another terrorist defender couldn't prove being adequate.
Hope some of you guys will still at some point learn that people should be judged for their actions even if they are lawless terrorists.
I hope so too - difference between you and me is that I apply the principle consistently to both Hamas,the Israelis backing them, and the Israelis committing a genocide.
Yeah I struggle to understand why you're avoiding the whole matter of how "capture all Hamas members and release all hostages" is such a difficult concept to grasp and, therefore, a matter to fulfill. If someone actually wants to make IDF go home, that is.
And there is also a thing that happened on October that involved quite a lot of stuff. A thing that would have prevented a lot of deaths, if it had not been done, you know. I'm not asking you to forgive my suspicion at your fixation on something that came after that. I'm telling that you are defending terrorists. Or, maybe, you even share goals with them.
Well you're only calling them negative things when asked about it, and only to make others accept you as an adequate person, or stuff. Pretty simple concept to grasp - express something that you don't really feel, you know. Called a "lie".
That didn't happen. Or, whatever the way you want to rephrase it, the ground operation decision was not made until what happened on October, happened.
So you're basically refusing the idea that Hamas could be adequate human beings, and think they can only operate as machines, or instruments in someone's hands. Too bad. It is they themselves who should take responsibility for their actions, not Israel.
Magnitude more than... ?
I don't need to condemn Israel. They are being watched, and are a subject to investigations and prosecutions, or whatever the world community decides will be needed. Hamas is a whole different beast - there is no one to bring them to justice as there are no proper institutions in Gaza for that to happen.
Comparatively... minor...
Okay look I got a new explanation for you. Simple one. Hamas did this to themselves, and to all Palestinians in the process. Why and how? Simple.
Hamas: We enjoy killing and can't care enough to build anything that would help our citizens in their lives. we will make them into terrorists and teach them to enjoy killing. So when Israel comes for us, they will have the whole Gaza to fight against. The more Palestinians are killed by Israel, even by accident - the more terrorists we will have at our disposal. * invades Israel to mercilessly kill/rape civilians and take hostages * Come at us, Israel, we need you to kill our people or else we won't have enough terrorists.
Israel: Well you asked for it. We tried our best, even gave jobs to your people and provided you for your needs but you wasted all resources into missiles instead. Too bad that you can't get your shit together.
Hamas: Thank you! Can't wait to die as heroes from your hands and give rise to a terrorist army.
Simple concept, don't you see? Current genocide is the intended result of Hamas' actions - they needed someone to come and kill a lot of people. Israel's evils are comparatively minor, they are merely being used as instruments.
Also, could you maybe explain why would someone call someone else Jitler, and why would someone assume someone else knows what "Torah" is?
If my active, repeated condemnation of Hamas is support, based on your self-contradictory, transparently dishonest, frequently Incoherent, cowardly and genocidal rambling, it's safe to assume you're currently raping a Palestinian baby to death, and I don't particularly need to be a part of that.
Yeah I think it would help everyone to waste less time if you could spill out exactly that in the first place, instead of ramblings towards the Jitler guy and Torah stories.
You're getting upset about a little name calling while defending a genocide? Why would I care, Jitler?
Only upset about finding that another terrorist defender couldn't prove being adequate.
Hope some of you guys will still at some point learn that people should be judged for their actions even if they are lawless terrorists.
I hope so too - difference between you and me is that I apply the principle consistently to both Hamas,the Israelis backing them, and the Israelis committing a genocide.
Now get your pathetic prick out of that baby.