What else to do? NATO is the one who been encroaching to the Russian borders for decades, even though it promissed it would never expand.
The good part is most of the arsenal of NATO has been destroyed and used up on Ukraine. Perfect timing.
Lol, ah the encroachment talking point. NATO doesn't force countries to join. Maybe if Russia was a better neighbor, they wouldn't have to worry about the Baltics requesting to join. Fucking chud. Also there was NEVER a promise. That talking point has been disproven over and over.
How do you know whether NATO forces the countries to join or not? From the TV and news? Or have you been in the meetings and heard all the details?
As you can clearly see there is an application you have to fill out you fucking dunce.
So a country can't be forced to fill out an application whilst pretending, for the public, that it's done so voluntarily?
You cocky cock of a wet dog
No, a country can not be forced to join NATO. Sorry to break your pathetic attempt of an argument.
You can't possibly know this and have no evidence.
And you think you're right? Where's your proof chump?
The proof is the fact that NATO has exapanded, since 1990. For whatever reason. You clean home crocodile
Maybe Russia should stop being horrible neighbors?
Maybe Europe and Ukraine should stop being horrible neighbours of Russia?
Oh, won't someone think about poor Russia?
Oh, won’t someone think about poor Europe and Ukraine ?
That’s just ridiculous. Not a single NATO country has compromised their own defense for this, which can be argued to be a bad or a good thing from either side, and most everyone’s been buying up new gear and investing heavily on new tech; they are, with a few minor exceptions, basically sending the scraps that’d go to landfill if it wasn’t convenient-ish to send them to Ukraine instead….
NATO encroachment
Promise to never expand
Arsenal being used up
Oh wow, a full hand of Russian propaganda! I bet you'll get an extra couple rubles for this post, daddy vladdy loves cramming in all kinds of bullshit into a single package.
Firstly, do you disagree with the fact that NATO promised, in 1990, it would never expand an inch towards Russia?
Has it expanded since then or not?
Before I answer that, do you disagree with the fact that Russia signed a treaty in 1997 that explicitly allowed eastern block countries to join NATO by guaranteeing the territorial integrity (and autonomy) of the countries? Funny how you don't hear Russian propagandists talk about that one lol.
As to the alleged 'promise' you refer to, can you point to where it was written and agreed to? Or are you just going off of oral statements to Gorbachev before the USSR fell by one us diplomat that wasn't supported by his peers in the negotiation team and was walked back by the time the actual treaty was signed?
Our disagreement is going to come down to whether non-binding oral statements count as promises, or if you think subsequent signed agreements don't overrule spoken statements.
What else to do? NATO is the one who been encroaching to the Russian borders for decades, even though it promissed it would never expand.
The good part is most of the arsenal of NATO has been destroyed and used up on Ukraine. Perfect timing.
Lol, ah the encroachment talking point. NATO doesn't force countries to join. Maybe if Russia was a better neighbor, they wouldn't have to worry about the Baltics requesting to join. Fucking chud. Also there was NEVER a promise. That talking point has been disproven over and over.
How do you know whether NATO forces the countries to join or not? From the TV and news? Or have you been in the meetings and heard all the details?
As you can clearly see there is an application you have to fill out you fucking dunce.
So a country can't be forced to fill out an application whilst pretending, for the public, that it's done so voluntarily?
You cocky cock of a wet dog
No, a country can not be forced to join NATO. Sorry to break your pathetic attempt of an argument.
You can't possibly know this and have no evidence.
And you think you're right? Where's your proof chump?
The proof is the fact that NATO has exapanded, since 1990. For whatever reason. You clean home crocodile
Maybe Russia should stop being horrible neighbors?
Maybe Europe and Ukraine should stop being horrible neighbours of Russia?
Oh, won't someone think about poor Russia?
Oh, won’t someone think about poor Europe and Ukraine ?
”Most of the arsenal of NATO”?
That’s just ridiculous. Not a single NATO country has compromised their own defense for this, which can be argued to be a bad or a good thing from either side, and most everyone’s been buying up new gear and investing heavily on new tech; they are, with a few minor exceptions, basically sending the scraps that’d go to landfill if it wasn’t convenient-ish to send them to Ukraine instead….
Oh wow, a full hand of Russian propaganda! I bet you'll get an extra couple rubles for this post, daddy vladdy loves cramming in all kinds of bullshit into a single package.
Firstly, do you disagree with the fact that NATO promised, in 1990, it would never expand an inch towards Russia?
Has it expanded since then or not?
Before I answer that, do you disagree with the fact that Russia signed a treaty in 1997 that explicitly allowed eastern block countries to join NATO by guaranteeing the territorial integrity (and autonomy) of the countries? Funny how you don't hear Russian propagandists talk about that one lol.
As to the alleged 'promise' you refer to, can you point to where it was written and agreed to? Or are you just going off of oral statements to Gorbachev before the USSR fell by one us diplomat that wasn't supported by his peers in the negotiation team and was walked back by the time the actual treaty was signed?
Our disagreement is going to come down to whether non-binding oral statements count as promises, or if you think subsequent signed agreements don't overrule spoken statements.