Q: So you believe your efforts stopped it from collecting and transmitting or was it able to collect but just not able to transmit?
GEN. RYDER: We believe that it did not collect while it was transiting the United States or flying over the United States, and certainly the efforts that we made contributed, I'm sure.
The question gave two possibilities: it collected and didn’t transmit, and it didn’t collect. The General states that it didn’t collect, and he’s sure that they were able to mitigate anything if it did collect (which it didn’t). Basic English. He also does not refer to the balloon as a spy balloon FWIW, correcting the journalist who did refer to it as one.
@zephyreks What exactly did the countermeasures contribute to if it wasn't collecting to begin with?
To avoid any potential data collection? The US didn’t know what the balloon’s capabilities or purpose were until they shot it down. Until then, treat everything as a threat. It’s SOP.
@zephyreks 😂 😂 I love how you twist reality to avoid seeing what's literally right in front of your face.
Read your favourite general’s statement and get back to me. It’s simple English.
@zephyreks I've already read it. The countermeasures the US took certainly contributed to the lack of data collection.
Yes, and what exactly do you think that means?
Also, props to Lemmy for handling this discussion, because the latency is way less than Reddit.
@zephyreks That means it wasn't able to collect data in part because of the countermeasures that contributed to preventing it from collecting data. If that was not the case, why wouldn't the BG have just said, "no it wouldn't have mattered because it wasn't trying to collect data."?
Because they needed to justify the hassle and spending they spent trying to prevent it from collecting? Do you think the US military budget grows on trees?
@zephyreks lol I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics you have to jump through to arrive at your worldview. For you to think that in that moment, while being questioned by a reporter about a Chinese balloon and the collection of data that his immediate thought was I need to justify the budget… It’s just astounding.
It's a press conference. Do you think you can make it to General without press training?
@zephyreks You're grasping at straws.... give it up.
@zephyreks Dude, you're a fucking idiot. Here's the press release from the Pentagon where Brigadier General Pat Ryder says exactly what I've been pointing out.... that US countermeasures certainly contributed to the balloon not collecting any information. So there you have it, from the official Pentagon press release by the same guy I've been telling you about repeatedly but you refuse to believe. 🤡 https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3444912/pentagon-press-secretary-air-force-brig-gen-pat-ryder-holds-a-press-briefing/
Q: So you believe your efforts stopped it from collecting and transmitting or was it able to collect but just not able to transmit?
GEN. RYDER: We believe that it did not collect while it was transiting the United States or flying over the United States, and certainly the efforts that we made contributed, I'm sure.
The question gave two possibilities: it collected and didn’t transmit, and it didn’t collect. The General states that it didn’t collect, and he’s sure that they were able to mitigate anything if it did collect (which it didn’t). Basic English. He also does not refer to the balloon as a spy balloon FWIW, correcting the journalist who did refer to it as one.
@zephyreks What exactly did the countermeasures contribute to if it wasn't collecting to begin with?
To avoid any potential data collection? The US didn’t know what the balloon’s capabilities or purpose were until they shot it down. Until then, treat everything as a threat. It’s SOP.
@zephyreks 😂 😂 I love how you twist reality to avoid seeing what's literally right in front of your face.
Read your favourite general’s statement and get back to me. It’s simple English.
@zephyreks I've already read it. The countermeasures the US took certainly contributed to the lack of data collection.
Yes, and what exactly do you think that means?
Also, props to Lemmy for handling this discussion, because the latency is way less than Reddit.
@zephyreks That means it wasn't able to collect data in part because of the countermeasures that contributed to preventing it from collecting data. If that was not the case, why wouldn't the BG have just said, "no it wouldn't have mattered because it wasn't trying to collect data."?
Because they needed to justify the hassle and spending they spent trying to prevent it from collecting? Do you think the US military budget grows on trees?
@zephyreks lol I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics you have to jump through to arrive at your worldview. For you to think that in that moment, while being questioned by a reporter about a Chinese balloon and the collection of data that his immediate thought was I need to justify the budget… It’s just astounding.
It's a press conference. Do you think you can make it to General without press training?
@zephyreks You're grasping at straws.... give it up.