at what point do you draw the line for "retro"?

InkstainTheBat@lemmy.ml to RetroGaming@lemmy.world – 62 points –

And what category does the PS2, Wii, Xbox, Nintendo DS/3DS fit into? They aren't retro, but they're not really "modern" either

Edit:sorry about posting 4 times, it kept telling me that it had a correction error

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In my view, systems without an HDMI output or which default to a 4:3 aspect ratio are retro. But I don’t expect everyone else to share this opinion, and that’s totally fine. 🙂

The first version of 360 didn't have HDMI tho... While some versions of GC had digital video out, and PS2 could do 1080i with some games.

PS2 defaults to 4:3, digital out can be things besides HDMI, and the vast majority of 360 consoles sold had HDMI out. If you want to draw the line elsewhere, no big, do your thing, there’s no one True answer to OP’s question… but your comment feels like whataboutism to me and adds nothing of value.

Adding factual information about (potential) retro consoles in a retro gaming community adds nothing of value? Okay then.

Thats basically my demarcation point too.

If something can output a format a modern tv can upscale with no issues using a connection type it has then it’s not retro.

Anything that has component or hdmi output and can do 480p/i or better is just old, not retro.

Fun to think that someday if USB C finishes to eradicate HDMI/DP they might become the sign that it is retro... Look at that! They had a dedicated plug for the video signal back then :)

Even simpler, if it was designed to work with a CRT television because that is what the vast majority of people had at the time.

That is a very interesting take. 4:3 games do have a certain retro feeling to them!