No one owes votes to Biden by default. This math doesn't add to Trump's rally. You're saying @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com is automatically a Biden voter, but changing their mind would take votes away from Biden. At no point is Trump gaining anything from this.
No one votes for candidates by default. No one owes politicians votes.
It doesn't matter whether you want to vote for him or not. Voting third just means you vote for the worst of the two main options.
I don't live in the US, we have multi-party system, but it's still first pass the post, so if I don't vote for someone normal, my vote goes to void, and some fascists can get one step closer to the post.
If you want to dismantle the two party system, voting for anyone won't do it.
Unless you like dictatorships and want to abolish voting. In which case, just vote Trump and be honest with yourself.
Both options are the worst options. My choices are between a blue genocidal fascist and a red genocidal fascist. Neither are any different except Trump is funnier.
I'm not going to pretend you are wrong - Biden's attitude towards Israel is very genocidal indeed - but acting like they are both the same is utterly ridiculous.
Trump will dismantle the law. And support Russia and Israel. If the Project 2025 will happen, it won't be funny anymore for anyone.
Once again, I'm not from the US, but we still feel the echoes of what happens in the US in our political climate. This will send the crazies to full overdrive globally.
Can you even read what you're saying? "yes, Biden is genocidal, but..." No, there is no but. I'm not going to endorse genocide, period, for any reason and that includes a ceremonial vote for the genocidal Democrats. The crazies are already in power and in full overdrive and which elderly psychopath sits in the oval office is irrelevant to that. The law in the US doesn't exist. Biggest prison population on earth, mass shooting every three days. There is no law here I'm enjoying. The state is on rails and there's no democratic influence on it whatsoever.
If Trump is so dangerous, why even bother with allowing a vote in the first place? No vote should be held then. If it's so dangerous, then Biden should suspend elections. If Trump is truly this big of a threat, the state should assassinate him.
The state will do nothing because they know the same thing I know: the particulars of the president don't matter. The engine of American imperialism exists regardless of who sits in the cockpit.
Assassinating political opponents doesn't sit well with people.
So what? If Trump is supposedly going to cause complete global fascism, what's more important? If he's truly as dangerous of a threat as people are saying, then anything should be done to prevent him from taking power.
None of you liberals are even describing Trump as simply a political opponent, you're describing him as a global menace that will end all history.
If you are so smart you also understand why historically such people are left alive - making martyrs from iconic people tends to fast-forward things.
In case you are a accelerationist, this would be ideal.
No, assassinating Hitler and the rest of the Nazis would have been the correct move to make in 1927. If this is already beyond Trump, if there's a movement that will be dedicated to him as a martyr, then there should be immediate roundups of anyone with fascist sympathies. Kick down their doors and arrest them.
This is a serious threat you're proposing and yet the solution is apparently to continue on as normal and hope an election goes your way. I don't get it. If this is a giant threat, then an appropriate response is necessary. And the appropriate response is brutally eliminating all of them.
You are not a time traveler, you have no idea what would have happened. Neither do I.
I would love nothing more than have Trump locked up, the suits are being processed, and I hope at least one gets him convicted before the elections. Because fuck that guy and sycophants around him.
I am both voting for and not voting for Biden somehow and it's pissing me off the general population is this stupid.
Feds, I've committed voter fraud apparently. You know what to do.
If you can write out the math where I, voting 3rd party, add a vote to Trump’s tally, and I will personally give you one billion dollars.
Trump - 50 000 votes
Biden - 50 001 votes with you
or
Trump - 50 000 votes
Biden - 50 000 votes
3rd - 1 vote (you)
No one owes votes to Biden by default. This math doesn't add to Trump's rally. You're saying @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com is automatically a Biden voter, but changing their mind would take votes away from Biden. At no point is Trump gaining anything from this.
No one votes for candidates by default. No one owes politicians votes.
It doesn't matter whether you want to vote for him or not. Voting third just means you vote for the worst of the two main options.
I don't live in the US, we have multi-party system, but it's still first pass the post, so if I don't vote for someone normal, my vote goes to void, and some fascists can get one step closer to the post.
If you want to dismantle the two party system, voting for anyone won't do it.
Unless you like dictatorships and want to abolish voting. In which case, just vote Trump and be honest with yourself.
Both options are the worst options. My choices are between a blue genocidal fascist and a red genocidal fascist. Neither are any different except Trump is funnier.
I'm not going to pretend you are wrong - Biden's attitude towards Israel is very genocidal indeed - but acting like they are both the same is utterly ridiculous.
Trump will dismantle the law. And support Russia and Israel. If the Project 2025 will happen, it won't be funny anymore for anyone.
Once again, I'm not from the US, but we still feel the echoes of what happens in the US in our political climate. This will send the crazies to full overdrive globally.
Can you even read what you're saying? "yes, Biden is genocidal, but..." No, there is no but. I'm not going to endorse genocide, period, for any reason and that includes a ceremonial vote for the genocidal Democrats. The crazies are already in power and in full overdrive and which elderly psychopath sits in the oval office is irrelevant to that. The law in the US doesn't exist. Biggest prison population on earth, mass shooting every three days. There is no law here I'm enjoying. The state is on rails and there's no democratic influence on it whatsoever.
If Trump is so dangerous, why even bother with allowing a vote in the first place? No vote should be held then. If it's so dangerous, then Biden should suspend elections. If Trump is truly this big of a threat, the state should assassinate him.
The state will do nothing because they know the same thing I know: the particulars of the president don't matter. The engine of American imperialism exists regardless of who sits in the cockpit.
Assassinating political opponents doesn't sit well with people.
So what? If Trump is supposedly going to cause complete global fascism, what's more important? If he's truly as dangerous of a threat as people are saying, then anything should be done to prevent him from taking power.
None of you liberals are even describing Trump as simply a political opponent, you're describing him as a global menace that will end all history.
If you are so smart you also understand why historically such people are left alive - making martyrs from iconic people tends to fast-forward things.
In case you are a accelerationist, this would be ideal.
No, assassinating Hitler and the rest of the Nazis would have been the correct move to make in 1927. If this is already beyond Trump, if there's a movement that will be dedicated to him as a martyr, then there should be immediate roundups of anyone with fascist sympathies. Kick down their doors and arrest them.
This is a serious threat you're proposing and yet the solution is apparently to continue on as normal and hope an election goes your way. I don't get it. If this is a giant threat, then an appropriate response is necessary. And the appropriate response is brutally eliminating all of them.
You are not a time traveler, you have no idea what would have happened. Neither do I.
I would love nothing more than have Trump locked up, the suits are being processed, and I hope at least one gets him convicted before the elections. Because fuck that guy and sycophants around him.
I am both voting for and not voting for Biden somehow and it's pissing me off the general population is this stupid.
Feds, I've committed voter fraud apparently. You know what to do.