He's unironically a cuck. After all of Trump's personal attacks and humiliation, Ron went full TED CRUZZZZZZ and immediately got on his knees and started slobbing on Trump's golden knob.
What a big dumb baby.
Ok. Not going to vote for any of those fools anyway. Joe Biden 2024.
Really wish we had a better option but it’s anyone not fascist until this wave of budget fascism dies out
Over time I see less and less of the need to be like "lol I don't like who I'm voting for, but I feel like I have to." I see absolutely no regret in 1) voting against obviously they worst thing ever and 2) voting for someone who seems to a least try to do things that aren't horrible and are generally pretty good? They only time you're going to agree with everything a candidate says or does you'd be on the ballot yourself. Even then it's probably healthy to disagree with yourself a bit.
I just hate that I'm forced to support Israel because the only other option is a literal dictator
Who also supports Israel. It’s not the president, it’s the MIC and every single moneyed interest powering the US.
3rd party 2024
End the MIC
A vote for third party is a vote for Trump.
You may not like it, but that's what we have to deal with.
Sounds like your problem? You liberals should have nominated someone who doesn't commit genocide. I live in Texas and my vote is ceremonial anyway. I'm voting third party and if that results in Trump, that's your fucking problem to deal with, liberal. I don't see Trump or Biden as meaningfully different and if anyone wants my vote, they have to appeal to me and my political interests.
Biden still owes me another stimulus check. Fuck him. I don't owe Democrats anything.
I don’t see Trump or Biden as meaningfully different
Holy shit, hilarious. Thanks for demonstrating the typical intelligence of a "muh both sides!"-er.
Cool. Enjoy my third party vote that results in Trump I guess. Do you think I'll vote for Biden if you call me an idiot enough times?
Do you think I’ll vote for Biden if you call me an idiot enough times?
Holy shit, hilarious. Someone who is a complete asshole to someone else for no reason is now all of a sudden indignant that someone wasn't nice to them. Thanks, again, for a further demonstration!
I'm an asshole to Biden and Democrats because they're complicit in genocide, that's where I'm directing my anger. If I was rude to someone here, I didn't realize nor do I think I said anything rude to anyone.
I didn’t realize nor do I think I said anything rude to anyone.
Ah, so lacking logical and interpersonal intelligence. Quite the combo!
Ok, well fuck you nerd. Glad we reached this point. It's easier.
It's easier for you to just call names (like "nerd" lol who even says this as an insult anymore?). This comes as no surprise.
Your statement "that's your fucking problem to deal with, liberal" tells me you wouldn't vote for Biden even if he gave you another stimulus check. You sound like a staunch Republican to me, you just drew the line at Trump. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if you voted Trump once you're in the ballot box.
Do your thing dude.
I'm a communist. Left wing. I was prepared to vote for Sanders in a general election in 2016 and 2020 but the Democrats decided against me being allowed to do that.
I wouldn't ever vote for Biden at this point because he's complicit in the genocide of Palestinians. If the Democrats instead nominate someone with a platform similar to the 2020 Sanders platform, then I'd vote for them. It's as easy as that.
not voting for someone because of your "flavour of the month" issue that has no impact to you seems to be the stupidest thing someone could do, given the stakes involved.
but you do you
You'd always find a way to accuse him of genocide or some equally inflated horror, it's such a predictable tactic.
Yes, it's predictable to accuse the president of genocide if they're complicit in the genocide of Palestinians. I live in the current reality and that's what is happening.
This is objectively incorrect
Not here on planet Earth, tinfoil hat.
If you can write out the math where I, voting 3rd party, add a vote to Trump's tally, and I will personally give you one billion dollars.
Lol. Trump is a fascist and has about a 35% ceiling for fascist voters in the US. Any vote you take away from his ONLY competition (in this case Biden) moves him one vote closer to victory. Keep your (nonexistent) money imbecile.
If you can write out the math where I, voting 3rd party, add a vote to Trump’s tally, and I will personally give you one billion dollars.
Bro you just won the internet with pedantic technical arguments that pretend to not understand what the person you're arguing with is telling you.
pretty sure they are just calling out a liar
I'm Autistic. I literally don't understand what they mean. Write out the math for me.
Trump - 50 000 votes
Biden - 50 001 votes with you
or
Trump - 50 000 votes
Biden - 50 000 votes
3rd - 1 vote (you)
No one owes votes to Biden by default. This math doesn't add to Trump's rally. You're saying @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com is automatically a Biden voter, but changing their mind would take votes away from Biden. At no point is Trump gaining anything from this.
No one votes for candidates by default. No one owes politicians votes.
The thinking is that 3rd party votes will lessen the amount of votes Biden gets, thus allowing Trump to win.
You aren't actually adding a vote to Trump's tally, you are subtracting one from Biden.
Most of the Independents I know skew towards the Republican side anyway, so I'm just a little inclined to think a 3rd party vote will actually subtract from Trump's tally, but I'm just a little old blue lady down in Louisiana, so what do I know?
Nobody in my very conservative family is happy w/ Trump OR Biden.
If they decided to go 3rd party, are they also voting for Biden? For Trump? They've committed voter fraud? Wait what?
I can't even imagine how that is your take-away from my comment. If your very conservative family vote 3rd party, they are voting 3rd party. Not for Biden or Trump.
My comment is attempting to point out that 3rd party votes are going to have a consequence.
He should be forced to carry his unviable campaign to term.
Yes he should have
He's probably gonna keep trashing Florida, though - gotta line up a post-governorship job with Faux.
"Why does no one like me, even when I'm the one hurting them?” - Ron DeSantis probably
weak and pathetic
Maybe he should have used even taller lifts in his shoes and leaned forward all the time, it works for the wannabe mango Mussolini
How do any of these morons expect to beat Trump if they won't say anything negative about him because they are afraid of pissing off the psychotic MAGA crowd? They ran campaigns refusing to call out his bad behavior when it would have been a slam dunk to just point out that Trump is an indicted felon and a crook and has no business running for office while under so many legal threats.
Chris Christie did. Didn't get far either.
Christie will go right back to worshipping Trump when he gets the nomination.
Why would that work? At this point, the majority of people comfortable continuing to vote Republican after an attempted coup, the repeal of Roe, and an avalanche of explicitly harmful and bigoted legislation are die-hard reactionaries and Trump supporters, and the Republican primaries seem to be reflecting that. Nikki Haley is the closest thing we have to a center-right candidate, and her odds of beating Trump right now are pretty slim. The political right has been bleeding public support for a while now, and Trump is the only thing that's been giving them momentum and wins - dropping him is desirable to at least some of the party, but it probably isn't an actual option.
And even if they did drop Trump, like... they're probably not going to course correct at this point. Enacting christofascism and appealing to reactionaries is looking more and more like the only hope for a future the party has left, and they'll likely continue down that path with or without Trump. "Bringing Trump to justice" is still worthwhile, but on a number of levels, it will not suddenly make the party of the southern strategy electable.
I wonder if Hailey drops out and by some miracle Trump is found ineligible by SCOTUS than the Republicans would have NO candidates to run for President. That would be very interesting…
Oh they'd try but they'd have a stock photo of a middle aged white man that no one could pick out of a lineup
Forgot how to fascist. Don't try to get more popular than the boss.
The real failure was the friends he lost along the way.
Bye bitch, enjoy your lameduck political career
Adios, puddin’ fingers!
Well that was distracting for a few minutes.
Buh-bye, Rhonda Sand-Tits!
No one suspended shit. You don't suspend something as important as a presidential campaign. He ended it.
Trump offered him the VP spot. DeSantis knows this is his only realistic path to the presidency, so he jumped on it.
(x) Doubt
oh man, any VP is gonna scheme to kill trump right away
Didn't Trump say something about the President having full immunity? So if Trump was ever incapacitated, and DeSantis took over the Presidency, he could order Trumps death?
They’re both Florida which is against the rules
No, that only means the Florida electors have to vote for a different vp. Trump/DeSantis could still win an election
Oh. Wow.
They are both Floridians, which would make DeSantis as Veep unconstitutional. Might not stop them, though.
Politifact disagrees, but it could introduce electoral college issues. And there's something we really need more of, eh?
You're right. Only the Florida electors can't vote for both.
fuckinglol
fuckinglol^fuckinglol^
He's unironically a cuck. After all of Trump's personal attacks and humiliation, Ron went full TED CRUZZZZZZ and immediately got on his knees and started slobbing on Trump's golden knob.
What a big dumb baby.
Ok. Not going to vote for any of those fools anyway. Joe Biden 2024.
Really wish we had a better option but it’s anyone not fascist until this wave of budget fascism dies out
Over time I see less and less of the need to be like "lol I don't like who I'm voting for, but I feel like I have to." I see absolutely no regret in 1) voting against obviously they worst thing ever and 2) voting for someone who seems to a least try to do things that aren't horrible and are generally pretty good? They only time you're going to agree with everything a candidate says or does you'd be on the ballot yourself. Even then it's probably healthy to disagree with yourself a bit.
I just hate that I'm forced to support Israel because the only other option is a literal dictator
Who also supports Israel. It’s not the president, it’s the MIC and every single moneyed interest powering the US.
3rd party 2024
End the MIC
A vote for third party is a vote for Trump.
You may not like it, but that's what we have to deal with.
Sounds like your problem? You liberals should have nominated someone who doesn't commit genocide. I live in Texas and my vote is ceremonial anyway. I'm voting third party and if that results in Trump, that's your fucking problem to deal with, liberal. I don't see Trump or Biden as meaningfully different and if anyone wants my vote, they have to appeal to me and my political interests.
Biden still owes me another stimulus check. Fuck him. I don't owe Democrats anything.
Holy shit, hilarious. Thanks for demonstrating the typical intelligence of a "muh both sides!"-er.
Cool. Enjoy my third party vote that results in Trump I guess. Do you think I'll vote for Biden if you call me an idiot enough times?
Holy shit, hilarious. Someone who is a complete asshole to someone else for no reason is now all of a sudden indignant that someone wasn't nice to them. Thanks, again, for a further demonstration!
I'm an asshole to Biden and Democrats because they're complicit in genocide, that's where I'm directing my anger. If I was rude to someone here, I didn't realize nor do I think I said anything rude to anyone.
Ah, so lacking logical and interpersonal intelligence. Quite the combo!
Ok, well fuck you nerd. Glad we reached this point. It's easier.
It's easier for you to just call names (like "nerd" lol who even says this as an insult anymore?). This comes as no surprise.
Your statement "that's your fucking problem to deal with, liberal" tells me you wouldn't vote for Biden even if he gave you another stimulus check. You sound like a staunch Republican to me, you just drew the line at Trump. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if you voted Trump once you're in the ballot box.
Do your thing dude.
I'm a communist. Left wing. I was prepared to vote for Sanders in a general election in 2016 and 2020 but the Democrats decided against me being allowed to do that.
I wouldn't ever vote for Biden at this point because he's complicit in the genocide of Palestinians. If the Democrats instead nominate someone with a platform similar to the 2020 Sanders platform, then I'd vote for them. It's as easy as that.
not voting for someone because of your "flavour of the month" issue that has no impact to you seems to be the stupidest thing someone could do, given the stakes involved.
but you do you
You'd always find a way to accuse him of genocide or some equally inflated horror, it's such a predictable tactic.
Yes, it's predictable to accuse the president of genocide if they're complicit in the genocide of Palestinians. I live in the current reality and that's what is happening.
This is objectively incorrect
Not here on planet Earth, tinfoil hat.
If you can write out the math where I, voting 3rd party, add a vote to Trump's tally, and I will personally give you one billion dollars.
Lol. Trump is a fascist and has about a 35% ceiling for fascist voters in the US. Any vote you take away from his ONLY competition (in this case Biden) moves him one vote closer to victory. Keep your (nonexistent) money imbecile.
Bro you just won the internet with pedantic technical arguments that pretend to not understand what the person you're arguing with is telling you.
pretty sure they are just calling out a liar
I'm Autistic. I literally don't understand what they mean. Write out the math for me.
Trump - 50 000 votes
Biden - 50 001 votes with you
or
Trump - 50 000 votes
Biden - 50 000 votes
3rd - 1 vote (you)
No one owes votes to Biden by default. This math doesn't add to Trump's rally. You're saying @Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com is automatically a Biden voter, but changing their mind would take votes away from Biden. At no point is Trump gaining anything from this.
No one votes for candidates by default. No one owes politicians votes.
The thinking is that 3rd party votes will lessen the amount of votes Biden gets, thus allowing Trump to win.
You aren't actually adding a vote to Trump's tally, you are subtracting one from Biden.
Most of the Independents I know skew towards the Republican side anyway, so I'm just a little inclined to think a 3rd party vote will actually subtract from Trump's tally, but I'm just a little old blue lady down in Louisiana, so what do I know?
Nobody in my very conservative family is happy w/ Trump OR Biden.
If they decided to go 3rd party, are they also voting for Biden? For Trump? They've committed voter fraud? Wait what?
I can't even imagine how that is your take-away from my comment. If your very conservative family vote 3rd party, they are voting 3rd party. Not for Biden or Trump.
My comment is attempting to point out that 3rd party votes are going to have a consequence.
Should have accepted his participation trophy
He should be forced to carry his unviable campaign to term.
Yes he should have
He's probably gonna keep trashing Florida, though - gotta line up a post-governorship job with Faux.
"Why does no one like me, even when I'm the one hurting them?” - Ron DeSantis probably
weak and pathetic
Maybe he should have used even taller lifts in his shoes and leaned forward all the time, it works for the wannabe mango Mussolini
How do any of these morons expect to beat Trump if they won't say anything negative about him because they are afraid of pissing off the psychotic MAGA crowd? They ran campaigns refusing to call out his bad behavior when it would have been a slam dunk to just point out that Trump is an indicted felon and a crook and has no business running for office while under so many legal threats.
Chris Christie did. Didn't get far either.
Christie will go right back to worshipping Trump when he gets the nomination.
Why would that work? At this point, the majority of people comfortable continuing to vote Republican after an attempted coup, the repeal of Roe, and an avalanche of explicitly harmful and bigoted legislation are die-hard reactionaries and Trump supporters, and the Republican primaries seem to be reflecting that. Nikki Haley is the closest thing we have to a center-right candidate, and her odds of beating Trump right now are pretty slim. The political right has been bleeding public support for a while now, and Trump is the only thing that's been giving them momentum and wins - dropping him is desirable to at least some of the party, but it probably isn't an actual option.
And even if they did drop Trump, like... they're probably not going to course correct at this point. Enacting christofascism and appealing to reactionaries is looking more and more like the only hope for a future the party has left, and they'll likely continue down that path with or without Trump. "Bringing Trump to justice" is still worthwhile, but on a number of levels, it will not suddenly make the party of the southern strategy electable.
I wonder if Hailey drops out and by some miracle Trump is found ineligible by SCOTUS than the Republicans would have NO candidates to run for President. That would be very interesting…
Oh they'd try but they'd have a stock photo of a middle aged white man that no one could pick out of a lineup
Forgot how to fascist. Don't try to get more popular than the boss.
The real failure was the friends he lost along the way.
Bye bitch, enjoy your lameduck political career
Adios, puddin’ fingers!
Well that was distracting for a few minutes.
Buh-bye, Rhonda Sand-Tits!
No one suspended shit. You don't suspend something as important as a presidential campaign. He ended it.
Trump offered him the VP spot. DeSantis knows this is his only realistic path to the presidency, so he jumped on it.
(x) Doubt
oh man, any VP is gonna scheme to kill trump right away
Didn't Trump say something about the President having full immunity? So if Trump was ever incapacitated, and DeSantis took over the Presidency, he could order Trumps death?
They’re both Florida which is against the rules
No, that only means the Florida electors have to vote for a different vp. Trump/DeSantis could still win an election
Oh. Wow.
They are both Floridians, which would make DeSantis as Veep unconstitutional. Might not stop them, though.
Politifact disagrees, but it could introduce electoral college issues. And there's something we really need more of, eh?
You're right. Only the Florida electors can't vote for both.