Kenneth Smith ‘struggled for life’ for 22 minutes in Alabama nitrogen gas execution: Updates

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Kenneth Smith ‘struggled for life’ for 22 minutes in nitrogen gas execution: Updates
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“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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You're right brother. At times like this, I remember Exodus 21:17, Deuteronomy 22:24 and Genesis 9:5-6.

That's old testament and old covenant. You should listen to Jesus and the new covenant instead. E.g. Matthew 5, 38-42.

While you're at it, read though verse 48. Would suit a lot of Christians better if they didn't conveniently skip over those verses on a regular basis.

Sorry, I forgot. Give me a list of the parts of the Bible I'm supposed to ignore. I want to make sure I'm paying attention only to the parts of the Lord's written word that are correct.

It's funny ("funny") because they ignored the part of Matthew 5 where Jesus explicitly says that he didn't come to abolish the law, and that not a thing about it will be changed until the end of time essentially (verses 17 & 18)

Tells you to read parts of Matthew 5, but skips the part of the chapter that directly contradicts their point.

Typical Christian rationalization.

As far as I know, you're not supposed to ignore anything. But there is a new covenant and an old covenant. For example, that's why you probably know Christian women with short hair. Same thing with capital punishment.

For example, that’s why you probably know Christian women with short hair.

I know Jews that eat shrimp... doesn't make it any more kosher.

No fan of Christianity, but it is pretty consistently stated that the old testament is basically the old religions book.
Kinda like how Islam and Christianity have a common origin, but don't follow the same religious text.

The story being that the deity of the abrahamic faiths has issued a series of different holy books and prophets for different eras, with the new one obsoleting the previous one.
Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Mormonism. Each says the previous was valid, but they get the new word of God and the old ones were true, but now the old rules are gone.

So it's actually internally consistent for a Christian to say the Torah doesn't apply, which is basically what the old testament is. Similar to how we don't latch onto Islam saying the old and new testament are obsolete, and only the Quran is true now.

There are plenty of examples in each of the chunks to point out the cruelty inherent in all of them without having to fall back to the "old canon".

No it's not internally consistent. Sure, that's what many modern Christians who recognize just how problematic their god and religion are and want to selectively ignore the parts they don't like, will try to tell you. But it's bullshit.

As I said to another Christian in this thread...

Jesus himself stated:

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

That's Matthew 5:17-18, and if you ask me it's very clear

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Matthew 5:17-18

That's Jesus speaking, by the way.

Seems very clear to me, guy.

I like that you reference Matthew 5, yet seem to completely ignore a big part of the chapter.

Sucks right? You can't be a Christian and still distance yourself from the horrific things that occurred in the Old Testament. Your god is a petty, jealous, slavery-promoting, genocidal piece of shit.