'There are mistakes, it is war': Israeli commander indicates IDF were behind white flag shooting

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Yet you have no proof for your numbers, while the UN literally said that those from the health ministry of Gaza, so in the 25-30k range, are correct

Not arguing your point, just adding to it.

The health ministry in Gaza is run by Hamas, full disclaimer, however it's the best data out there despite coming from a source that could provide some bias. Even if you consider some of those included could be Hamas combatants, the vast majority likely were not, so you're still trying to justify thousands of innocent civilians deaths because of a disproportionate response to the Hamas attack.

Exactly, and Hamas would probably not be the only source of information in Gaza if Israel didn't kill dozens of journalists working there

also, because Israel has enforced concentration camp conditions on the people of Gaza, they are well aware of who lives and who does there. they are, unsurprisingly,.not really happy to release their estimates.

Yeah for total deaths. Mine add up to 26k. These numbers have never been civilian only.