I recently switched jobs from a company with a "soft" hybrid work requirement to a fully-remote position with a company that doesn't enforce any office attendance policy. As a neurodivergent introvert, remote work is a comfortable thing for me, and I've got a good setup for it.
I took a trip across the state to be in-office for a couple days of meetings recently, and I was honestly kinda surprised to find that the lack of an office attendance policy had kinda killed the company culture. Even on peak attendance days, the office is maybe 1/4 full, silent as a tomb, and basically without value for collaborative work because the people you need to talk to probably aren't there. I went home from my trip feeling quite a bit worse about my new job, which was kinda the opposite of what was intended.
I didn't like being in-office at my old job, exactly, but I did really like my team, and enjoyed the conversations and banter we had. I'm fortunate to be working for a good employer that doesn't see the need to enforce an in-person work policy, but it's a little sad to realize that not having that policy means that the office as a place to work together with people is functionally dead.
You are not wrong about the lack of corporate culture. But at the end of the day, is that worth giving up family time, company of your pets, a corner office of your choosing, with access to your own fridge and amenities, being able to receive people at the door at reasonable hours, and not having to commute asinine hours?
Many people will reject that notion.
But here's the kicker: companies don't care about your well being. They only care about the bottom line. What incentive do they have to cater to your needs? None, other than the minimum for employee retention.
This idea of "team building" is just smoke and mirrors. An excuse to not have to admit the real reason: adapting away from buts-in-seats as a performance measure is hard.
Don't get me wrong, either -- I'm not at all in favor of mandatory RTO policies, and that team that I loved at my old employer is now scattered to the winds as a result of layoffs and related attrition. The corporate arm of that company had nothing to do with how well my team meshed and worked together (though I will give lots of credit to my immediate boss there -- I went to work at that company to work with her specifically, and she was one of the best managers one could ever ask for), and I suspect we'd have all agreed to be in-office together one or two days a week even without the RTO mandate. But it's been hard to get integrated at this new place of work, and I was looking forward to this trip as a way to start connecting with coworkers, only to find out none of them actually turned up to the office anyway. Without the company making a specific effort to bridge the gap, I think that remote work can become really isolating and reinforce existing cliques and teams to the detriment of those who join up later on.
I really relate to this.
My team has stayed intact throughout covid and perpetually WFH but there's no camaraderie any more and it feels like most of them really aren't pulling their weight... (of course it's hard to tell how busy they really are but I'm not dreaming it, there are some objective measures)
I had a similar experience but a different view than you. My last job had no in person requirements but we had an office for people who chose to go.
I did a couple times a week for a few months, and it was actually pleasant, because I knew the people that were there chose to be there. I would socialize with them knowing that they actively wanted to be in a space with coworkers to socialize.
Normally I'd be hesitant to strike up a conversation with someone from a different team in the office because there's a decent chance they just want to put their head down and work because they don't want to be there and would rather be working from home, keeping communications strictly to what's necessary.
Sometimes I would feel less social for weeks or months and wouldn't go into the office. It was nice to have the option to do both.
Yeha, now your family are your friends. How awful is that?
I recently switched jobs from a company with a "soft" hybrid work requirement to a fully-remote position with a company that doesn't enforce any office attendance policy. As a neurodivergent introvert, remote work is a comfortable thing for me, and I've got a good setup for it.
I took a trip across the state to be in-office for a couple days of meetings recently, and I was honestly kinda surprised to find that the lack of an office attendance policy had kinda killed the company culture. Even on peak attendance days, the office is maybe 1/4 full, silent as a tomb, and basically without value for collaborative work because the people you need to talk to probably aren't there. I went home from my trip feeling quite a bit worse about my new job, which was kinda the opposite of what was intended.
I didn't like being in-office at my old job, exactly, but I did really like my team, and enjoyed the conversations and banter we had. I'm fortunate to be working for a good employer that doesn't see the need to enforce an in-person work policy, but it's a little sad to realize that not having that policy means that the office as a place to work together with people is functionally dead.
You are not wrong about the lack of corporate culture. But at the end of the day, is that worth giving up family time, company of your pets, a corner office of your choosing, with access to your own fridge and amenities, being able to receive people at the door at reasonable hours, and not having to commute asinine hours?
Many people will reject that notion.
But here's the kicker: companies don't care about your well being. They only care about the bottom line. What incentive do they have to cater to your needs? None, other than the minimum for employee retention.
This idea of "team building" is just smoke and mirrors. An excuse to not have to admit the real reason: adapting away from buts-in-seats as a performance measure is hard.
Don't get me wrong, either -- I'm not at all in favor of mandatory RTO policies, and that team that I loved at my old employer is now scattered to the winds as a result of layoffs and related attrition. The corporate arm of that company had nothing to do with how well my team meshed and worked together (though I will give lots of credit to my immediate boss there -- I went to work at that company to work with her specifically, and she was one of the best managers one could ever ask for), and I suspect we'd have all agreed to be in-office together one or two days a week even without the RTO mandate. But it's been hard to get integrated at this new place of work, and I was looking forward to this trip as a way to start connecting with coworkers, only to find out none of them actually turned up to the office anyway. Without the company making a specific effort to bridge the gap, I think that remote work can become really isolating and reinforce existing cliques and teams to the detriment of those who join up later on.
I really relate to this.
My team has stayed intact throughout covid and perpetually WFH but there's no camaraderie any more and it feels like most of them really aren't pulling their weight... (of course it's hard to tell how busy they really are but I'm not dreaming it, there are some objective measures)
I had a similar experience but a different view than you. My last job had no in person requirements but we had an office for people who chose to go.
I did a couple times a week for a few months, and it was actually pleasant, because I knew the people that were there chose to be there. I would socialize with them knowing that they actively wanted to be in a space with coworkers to socialize.
Normally I'd be hesitant to strike up a conversation with someone from a different team in the office because there's a decent chance they just want to put their head down and work because they don't want to be there and would rather be working from home, keeping communications strictly to what's necessary.
Sometimes I would feel less social for weeks or months and wouldn't go into the office. It was nice to have the option to do both.
Yeha, now your family are your friends. How awful is that?