European leaders call for stronger defence ties after Trump’s Nato remarks

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European leaders call for stronger defence ties after Trump’s Nato remarks
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European leaders have called for greater unity and military cooperation across the continent in response to comments from Donald Trump that threatened to undermine the basis of Nato.

Donald Tusk, Poland’s prime minister, said on a visit to Paris on Monday that there was “no alternative” to the EU and the transatlantic alliance before a summit in which he discussed deepening defence relationships with the French president, Emmanuel Macron.

“It is probably here in Paris that the words from The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas resonate most clearly: ‘All for one, and one for all,’” said Tusk, in a thinly veiled riposte to the former US president and frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.

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As compared to what? The inflationary rates of the rest of the world? Because things cost more everywhere and comparatively the US weathered that better than about anywhere else. Real Wages have also have increased a lot to compensate in comparison as well. US is smoking other countries in this regard. People ARE dumb because they lack the critical thinking skills to actually look what’s going on.

The Inflation rate is lower than most other countries AND real wages have risen much more in America compared to peer countries as well. Each one of them would trade their numbers with the US in a heartbeat.

Feelings aren't facts, turns facts are facts. And the fact is when measuring real numbers Biden has absolutely crushed it.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/sep/01/joe-biden/does-the-us-have-less-inflation-than-other-leading/

https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-got-bigger-raises-than-g7-over-last-few-years-2023-7?op=1

Do you really think Americans are comparing their economy to those of other countries?

Don't be silly.

Isn’t that the point I was making?

No?

You started off by calling Americans "dumb" for not thinking Biden has done a great job. I pointed out that wages have not kept up with inflation so it's not surprising that many aren't feeling the love for Biden.

Then you argued that other countries have it worse, which I argued is irrelevant.

And I pointed out that wages actually did go up, moreso than any other country on the planet. Then pointed out that inflation has been the lowest of any country as well! And cited it! Yet that is not good enough. No one has had it easier than Americans following the pandemic.

Your feelings are not matching up with reality. Your situation might suck, idk but the overall situation is comparatively better than everywhere else.

No one has had it easier than Americans following the pandemic.

Once more, this is entirely irrelevant. People are hurting, they're not making themselves feel better by comparing their economic situation with that of other countries.

I really can't be any clearer than this.

Humanity is hurting worldwide, there is a major war taking place in two areas of the globe following a global pandemic. Seas are going to be choppy for a bit. But you have it better than everyone else. The situation is literally the best it can be right now.

And make the most of it, you have a tremendous advantage. A historic low unemployment rate, highest wage growth and demand for blue collar workers ever. If you’re not in a great situation, remember you’re a free agent always and the market has never been hotter for you.

I’ve no clue as to why you’ve pivoted to assuming my personal situation when I’ve given precisely no information about it, but it’s patronizing and creepy and you should stop now.

Well you sound like someone who’s completely out of touch with reality so I figured your must literally be in the most dire of straits, suffering more than the rest of humanity because milk costs a buck more than it did in the 2000’s

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Humanity is hurting worldwide, there is a major war taking place in two areas of the globe following a global pandemic. Seas are going to be choppy for a bit. But you have it better than everyone else. The situation is literally the best it can be right now.

And make the most of it, you have a tremendous advantage. A historic low unemployment rate, highest wage growth and demand for blue collar workers ever. If you’re not in a great situation, remember you’re a free agent always and the market has never been hotter for you.

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I don't give a fuck what's going on in other countries. I need to put food on the table for my family.

You have more opportunities here than elsewhere. Seek them out.

That's not an answer that works at scale. Not everyone can move up the job pyramid. Are you going to blame the people who can't get off minimum wage?

Not at all, but you do have to move on to move up often. We’re not Boomers, we don’t get to stay put at a single job for 40 years. There has never been unemployment and wages have been higher for blue collar workers, with growth outpacing inflation much moreso than white collar jobs. Your labor has never been in more demand so get yourself your just dues because you can and should (and DESERVE to) be earning more than minimum wages.

Get yourself your just dues with what? With what money for training? With what time for job/training research?

Once you're on the paycheck to paycheck treadmill that's it. Barring government intervention you are stuck. It's great that some people can move up but it is neither realistic nor recognizing the rights of the working class to just tell people to get a better job. That's not possible for most people on the underside of the median income. You think they're working 3 jobs just to cover bills by choice?

Get the fuck out of here with those bad faith GOP propaganda lines.

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