European leaders call for stronger defence ties after Trump’s Nato remarks
theguardian.com
European leaders have called for greater unity and military cooperation across the continent in response to comments from Donald Trump that threatened to undermine the basis of Nato.
Donald Tusk, Poland’s prime minister, said on a visit to Paris on Monday that there was “no alternative” to the EU and the transatlantic alliance before a summit in which he discussed deepening defence relationships with the French president, Emmanuel Macron.
“It is probably here in Paris that the words from The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas resonate most clearly: ‘All for one, and one for all,’” said Tusk, in a thinly veiled riposte to the former US president and frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.
At what point does this guy become such a liability, that the CIA carries out "Operation Orange Peel"?
Hopefully Secret Service is keeping tabs on this guy and microphoned his hair flap.
You don't think the CIA is on his side? His aims seem aligned with theirs.
To a point. The CIA suddenly lost a lot of human assets in 2021. At around the same time, the National Archives had been asking Trump to please kindly return all the classified documents he has at Mar-a-Lago. We don't know for sure that one led to the other, but the CIA has to be thinking about it.
You and I don't know for sure. The CIA knows exactly what was in those documents.
America is quickly loosing the strong leadership persona it's held for decades due to the utter stupidity of its leaders (both former and current). Biden has been lax on his oversight, but in fairness to him he had a shitshow to contend with in dealing with the fallout from Jan 6.
Come Nov Americans had better figure it out before everything it's worked for goes spinning down the drain.
Biden is fine. It's your fascist problem we're worried about.
Sincerely,
Europe
As an American it’s equally annoying how people cannot fucking see what a great job Biden has done overall. Land of the Free, Home of the Dumb
That’s because democrats are laughably horrible at championing their own successes. In contrast, republicans will drop a steaming pile of shit on the Speaker of the House’s desk, walk outside in front of the news cameras, and start screeching about how hard they’re winning.
As always, democrats are their own worst enemy.
That's also to do with their voting base. Biden's numbers went down partly because he tried to take a victory lap on the economy without the economy being better for most Americans.
It's a little much to call them dumb when wages haven't gone up by nearly as much as literally everything else has.
As compared to what? The inflationary rates of the rest of the world? Because things cost more everywhere and comparatively the US weathered that better than about anywhere else. Real Wages have also have increased a lot to compensate in comparison as well. US is smoking other countries in this regard. People ARE dumb because they lack the critical thinking skills to actually look what’s going on.
The Inflation rate is lower than most other countries AND real wages have risen much more in America compared to peer countries as well. Each one of them would trade their numbers with the US in a heartbeat.
Feelings aren't facts, turns facts are facts. And the fact is when measuring real numbers Biden has absolutely crushed it.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/sep/01/joe-biden/does-the-us-have-less-inflation-than-other-leading/
https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-got-bigger-raises-than-g7-over-last-few-years-2023-7?op=1
Do you really think Americans are comparing their economy to those of other countries?
Don't be silly.
Isn’t that the point I was making?
No?
You started off by calling Americans "dumb" for not thinking Biden has done a great job. I pointed out that wages have not kept up with inflation so it's not surprising that many aren't feeling the love for Biden.
Then you argued that other countries have it worse, which I argued is irrelevant.
And I pointed out that wages actually did go up, moreso than any other country on the planet. Then pointed out that inflation has been the lowest of any country as well! And cited it! Yet that is not good enough. No one has had it easier than Americans following the pandemic.
Your feelings are not matching up with reality. Your situation might suck, idk but the overall situation is comparatively better than everywhere else.
Once more, this is entirely irrelevant. People are hurting, they're not making themselves feel better by comparing their economic situation with that of other countries.
I really can't be any clearer than this.
Humanity is hurting worldwide, there is a major war taking place in two areas of the globe following a global pandemic. Seas are going to be choppy for a bit. But you have it better than everyone else. The situation is literally the best it can be right now.
And make the most of it, you have a tremendous advantage. A historic low unemployment rate, highest wage growth and demand for blue collar workers ever. If you’re not in a great situation, remember you’re a free agent always and the market has never been hotter for you.
I’ve no clue as to why you’ve pivoted to assuming my personal situation when I’ve given precisely no information about it, but it’s patronizing and creepy and you should stop now.
Humanity is hurting worldwide, there is a major war taking place in two areas of the globe following a global pandemic. Seas are going to be choppy for a bit. But you have it better than everyone else. The situation is literally the best it can be right now.
And make the most of it, you have a tremendous advantage. A historic low unemployment rate, highest wage growth and demand for blue collar workers ever. If you’re not in a great situation, remember you’re a free agent always and the market has never been hotter for you.
I don't give a fuck what's going on in other countries. I need to put food on the table for my family.
You have more opportunities here than elsewhere. Seek them out.
That's not an answer that works at scale. Not everyone can move up the job pyramid. Are you going to blame the people who can't get off minimum wage?
Not at all, but you do have to move on to move up often. We’re not Boomers, we don’t get to stay put at a single job for 40 years. There has never been unemployment and wages have been higher for blue collar workers, with growth outpacing inflation much moreso than white collar jobs. Your labor has never been in more demand so get yourself your just dues because you can and should (and DESERVE to) be earning more than minimum wages.
Get yourself your just dues with what? With what money for training? With what time for job/training research?
Once you're on the paycheck to paycheck treadmill that's it. Barring government intervention you are stuck. It's great that some people can move up but it is neither realistic nor recognizing the rights of the working class to just tell people to get a better job. That's not possible for most people on the underside of the median income. You think they're working 3 jobs just to cover bills by choice?
Get the fuck out of here with those bad faith GOP propaganda lines.
Biden is going to exacerbate the fascist problem if he keeps ignoring the economy.
Sincerely,
The Workers of America.
Everyone says the economy is going great though?!
"The" economy is going great, but since the US has an insane problem of inequality caused by decades of trickle down economics, this does not necessarily translate to the lived experience of ordinary people.
Standing up for unions and student loan forgiveness are two examples of policies the current administration pursue in order to deal with this. They are very limited by what they can do because the senate sucks.
Loosing isn't the right word
How convenient for countries that consider the USA unfriendly.
Hey didn't that Tucker guy just have an interview with Putin? What now?
Trump and conservatives, eroding the U.S. global position every day.
Making the country weaker on the global table, while also making it poorer, less capable, and generally less stable.
ETO: European Treaty Organization. Cut the US out and problem solved.
No longer following imperialistic US foreign policy in the name of collective defense.
I dunno, Marine Le Pen and others are also casting a shadow over Europe. Keep voting for strong candidates to keep the likes of her and the AFD out. It's very important the world weather this storm.
Orban is no prize, as another example. But it sounds like Poland turned things around in the last election?
Also get rid of Turkey while we're at it. If I were forced to fight down there I'd fight along the Kurds.
It's hard to overstate the strategic importance of the Bosporus Strait
I think the relevant question is how hard would it be to take the Greek side of the strait in a war case?
And how quickly would a Greece-Turkey war kick off if they weren't in an alliance anymore?
Of course - and hopefully soon Erdogan will rot and someone more worthy will take over. I'm not saying we should stop considering Turkey allies, I just don't want to depend on them that's all.
The Bosporus Strait is not just a waterway, it is the lifeline of civilization. It is the gateway to the East and the West, the cradle of culture and commerce, the nexus of power and prosperity. Without the Bosporus Strait, the world would be plunged into a spiral of darkness and chaos. The fate of humanity hinges on the control of this narrow strip of sea. Whoever holds the Bosporus Strait holds the keys to infinite power. The Bosporus Strait is the question and the answer, the beginning and the end, the ultimate and the absolute. All hail the Bosporus Strait!
That's the Suez Canal you're thinking of. The Bosporus Straight has plenty of rail roads circumventing it.
"Hard to overstate" is just a saying, clearly it's easy to overstate.
Small note, make it ETO‘O: European Treaty Organisation Operations.
Trump is doing a great job!
... At cutting the US out of the world, which won't crash our economy at all.
He's doing a great job bringing the world together. Against him. What a leader!
Isn't this exactly what Trump wants?
The main reason Trump is saying these things is that it's already abundantly clear that every country in Europe will be hitting their NATO funding target in the next few years anyway. They've all made plans to that effect anyway. So Trump can make it look like he did it, when in reality it had already been decided.
Thanks for the clear explanation, I wasn't aware.
Their armies and NATO want more money every single year. They've been crying wolf for decades. Trump is just the newest excuse.
3rd party 2024 and end this bullshit
3rd party 2024Split the vote 2024 andend this bullshitgive conservatives a landslide winFTFY. I don’t like Biden. I’d rather have a fucking llama in office. But every vote pulled from Biden in favor of a 3rd party is a de facto vote for conservatives.
You want 3rd party to be a viable vote? Vote for democrats who support ranked voting.
A vote for a 3rd party is not a vote for whoever you don't like. You must see how that logic is flawed.
It’s not whoever I don’t like. It’s that “vote third party” is a conservative talking point used to bait liberals into wasting their votes. Because conservatives are already really good at presenting a unified front and consolidating votes, so the talking point only truly affects one side of the political spectrum.
As a former 3rd party voter; it's a wasted vote. I don't like either parties but voting 3rd party favors the GOP in US elections. Now that the GOP is full steam ahead on facism, voting 3rd party is dangerous. Hopefully more municipalities, states, and national elections will migrate to ranked choice voting to make voting for other parties a viable option. Until then, I'd rather not vote for the party that wants a dictatorship.