response to recent trends rule

spujb@lemmy.cafe to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zone – 1260 points –

here are some hyper-polluting individuals:

  • the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
  • Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
  • Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)

relevant quote:

But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.

Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)

edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.

edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.

She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…

and another good comment

[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

sources/timeline for the above:

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What part of "airport" are you missing? People cannot flood into an airport. People in an airport cannot afford to abandon their gates to go mob some random celeb.

This is a made up problem that doesnt happen to any of the equally famous people who fly first class with zero issues.

Youre hand wringing for someone who wouldnt even give you the time of day

Because of her private flight, you mean?

Oh wait, weird, its almost like taking private flights marks your travel and makes it easier for a mob to follow you, a thing that cannot happen on public flights where you dont publicly own the plane

Kinda weird how a mob cannot spawn out of nowhere when no one in the airport knows ahead of time that youre coming, huh

It also can't happen on chartered flights.

Which is still not the same as owning a private jet.

It can and has, which is part of the lawsuit she threatened

She has a private jet. That's what was being tracked.

But yes, I still understand that you think a chartered flight and a private jet are the same thing.

Aight so lets just ignore that the 2015 mobbing happened on a chartered flight

You understand that a chartered flight doesnt stop the exact problem with the private flights? She isnt planepooling a chartered flight. Youre arguing for her to solve a problem she doesnt have with a solution that keeps the actual problem

The problem that private flights shouldn't be a thing? I'd say it does.

Oh good lord, do you think the problem with private flights is that the plane belongs to a single person?

No? I think the problem with private flights is that they exist when chartered flights would be fine.

Chartered flights do the exact same thing that is the issue with private flights.

So, yes, you do think the problem is that the plane is owned by one person.

You do know that there are many examples where commercial airlines are not practical, right?

Medical flights, for example.

Then there are indigenous communities in Alaska where chartering a flight is the easiest way off the island. I suppose we should fuck them over like we usually do.

You understand that swift isnt a doctor or someone living in a remote island town right? You grok that using charter does exactly nothing to change why she is getting criticism, yes?

Or do you think that because there is some acceptable ways to use a plane, that means all ways that use the plane must be acceptable via the transitive property?

Or are you seriously trying to call me a fucking racist because you think alaskan natives take charter planes for 15 minute car ride distances?

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