Alabama Justice Who Ruled That Embryos Are ‘Children’ Appeared On QAnon Conspiracist's Show

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Alabama Justice Who Ruled That Embryos Are ‘Children’ Appeared On QAnon Conspiracist's Show
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Alabama Chief Justice Tom Parker indicated on the show he was a proponent of the “Seven Mountains Mandate,” an explicitly theocratic doctrine at the heart of Christian nationalism.

Alabama Chief Justice Tom Parker, who wrote the concurring opinion in last week’s explosive Alabama Supreme Court ruling that frozen embryos have the same rights as living children, recently appeared on a show hosted by self-anointed “prophet” and QAnon conspiracy theorist.

Parker was the featured guest on “Someone You Should Know,” hosted by Johnny Enlow, a Christian nationalist influencer and devoted supporter of former President Donald Trump. Over the course of an 11-minute interview, Parker articulated a theocratic worldview at odds with a functioning, pluralistic society.

“God created government,” he told Enlow, adding that it’s “heartbreaking” that “we have let it go into the possession of others.”

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Imagine a gay woman living in Alabama. There's certainly a lot of them, we're everywhere after all. Do you think she's going to say what she really thinks while around strangers? Or is she going to keep her head down and try to avoid getting hate crimed?

You are in the bible belt. Should we abandon you too?

I live in baboon-butt red UTAH where they're trying to eradicate gays from existence as much as possible. So whenever I'm out in public, I make sure I loudly state something about how attracted I am to the other men in the room. I love getting under people's skin. And I love pissing off the conservitard monsters who are ruining this country - it gives me great happiness to be able to do so.

I'm not staying here. I've been planning my exit from this shit hole and the people here for a few months. I'm a gay man who has simply had enough.

There's no saving these people. The good ones are leaving, the rest are some of the worst people in the country; they either are dismissive of what's going on or indifferent.

Why would I waste my time voting here when my vote literally means nothing? This is a traitor enclave.

These people don't give a shit about anyone who doesn't go to their church, which is very denomination exclusive. You can't make them be civilized.

Yeah I wouldn't live in Alabama or Kentucky or Texas if I were paid to. I already have it bad enough living in baboon-ass red UTAH. I hate it here, but I'm a caretaker for an elderly parent and forced to live here at the moment. Still - I do what I can to annoy the legislative body.

I keep writing very acid letters to the editor about the idiots who run our state and the conservitard shitheads who believe their religious nutjobbery supercedes everyone else's right to exist.

What I don't get though, is why should I be riled up about this "embryos are children" thing. I mean, the media is making it sound like we on the left and liberal side of things should be outraged. But i'm not at all. The whole reason I'm so pro-abortion is that I believe people shouldnt' have as many kids as they do, especiallyy here in Utah were child abuse is the #1 hobby.

So IVF becomes even more restrictive. Frankly, that aligns perfectly with my goals and ideals. I do feel bad for people really wanting IVF, but if it means LESS kids in the world, I can't be unhappy about it.

I'll put it this way; I'm a gay man, so I'm about as far removed from the abortion issue as anyone can get. But I have a sister and nieces. Call me old-fashioned, but I want them to have rights to do whatever the fuck they want without a crusty old bastard in DC telling them that they can't. I've always said "I don't have a uterus, so it's none of my damn business" but since the Christians and their political operatives, the Republicans, have forced my hand, then I feel like it's my duty to rain on their parade about it.

That said, the IVF debate, to me, just seems like more of the same from the Christians, whose entire mission statement is to take over the whole of the earth so Jesus can give them a present for being the biggest cunts to ever walk. Instead of making life easier for the exact people who are responsible for bringing life into the world, they attack them while simultaneously getting rid of child labor laws and school lunches.

This issue was never about being "Pro-Life." This has always been about Christians wanting to be in control. If this were a "pro-life" movement, Christians would be adopting kids from orphanages and foster care, where they are being abused. But abusing kids is a Christian staple. They mentally and sexually abuse them and have for about 2000 years.

So when I get a chance to piss in the Cheerios of the right wing Christian propaganda machine, I do it, because frankly, they can all eat shit.

I totally get that and don't get me wrong, I'm all for freedom of reproductive choice to the max. I'm so far left and liberal, I actually scare people who are liberal and find my ideas even too radical for them. I agree that the "crusty old bastards" are so removed from the reality of what women go through that they are the LAST people who should be making laws about their bodies.

And I totally agree that the IVF debate seems like more Christian nonsense and stupidity, which is why I simply can't give them any kind of victory here. They are not just cunts, they're abysmal monsters that should be wiped off the earth, in my view.

And you're right, the real issue is these conservative twits want to take over the world and control everyone and everything. And that's something I just won't let them have. I refuse to be riled up into a froth over this IVF debacle, because it's such a ridiculous ruling in the first place.

But dont' get wrong, I totally feel horrible for the women affected by it. And I stand by them no matter what. And if it means illegal IFV has to happen, I would totally support that. Like you, I'm a pisser into the Cheerios bowl of the christian right wing every chance I can get!!

I recent sent a scathing letter about Utah's hateful anti-trans bills this session, and the paper nearly refused to publish it - but surprisingly, they finally did. And it caused a lot of conservative bigotry to come out in the open. And I love getting under their skin!!!

I tell people that I'm so far left that I make Bernie Sanders look like Ronald Regan. If you go far enough left, you get your guns back.

Joking aside, the Christians are coming after the LGBTQ next. I wish them the best of luck. I'm not the "friendly atheist" they think I am. They're gonna have a very hard time loading me into the train car.

I will protect the women I care about though, and I simply will not be nice about it.

I love that, at least there's a few of us good weirdoes in the world on the far far left.

In Utah the so called "christians" (i.e. hypocritical monsters) are trying their best to eradicate LGBTQ completely, pulling all books that mention such an "abomination" off school shelves, and now disallowing any mention of such things in public.

So I wrote to the legislatures asking them to come clean and admit the reason they don't care that Utah has the highest teen suicide rate in the nation is because so many of the teens who commit suicide are LGBTQ.

Of course they never responded, and the silence was deafening. I obviously said something truthful.

I'm a Taurus, so I fiercely protect everyone I care about, to the point of hurting others in any way I have to. And often the truth does hurt them and expose them for who these monsters really are.

Utah has the highest teen suicide rate in the nation

That's a terrifying statistic. I'm gay and I only barely made it out of my Christian family. I knew it was bad out there, but I hoped it was getting better....

These Christians have got to be dealt with. Talk about an enemy at the gates...

Well I'm glad you made it out of your family situation, I know so many gay people in Utah who have been through that. And it's sad to see families "disown" their own children, which strikes me as the most un-christian thing anyone could ever do.

Sadly Utah's fearful right-wing legislators are doing everything they can to march us back into the dark ages. This current legislative session alone, they passed a bill forbidding trans people to use public bathrooms (And I mean, there's like possibly two trans people in the state!) and requiring all schools to remove any books about sexuality from schools.

And the new bill being signed is to demand that the Ten Commandments be displayed in all public schools. And here I had the bizarre idea that church and state were supposed to be separate......how naive of me.

Thank you. I was far more fortunate than a lot of my LGBTQ brothers and sisters. My dad tried to talk to me about it once when I was about 12, but he decided to take me on a fishing trip with one of his friends. I felt cornered, so I just avoided their questions. They were both vocally anti-gay, so it was a moot point regardless.

I feel you on the separation of church and state, though. I live in Tennessee and apart from there being giant crosses that get used as landmarks, but the whole state may as well just be a huge billboard for the Christians. That's not even mentioning the fact that Christians graffiti under bridges and post signs there that say "Repent: The Lord is coming" and other little Jesus catchphrases. Last I checked, spray painting government property was a crime and so is littering (I consider the signs the same as dumping trash).

Nothing gets done about it because, at this point, Christianity is state sponsored terrorism. I don't know what else to call it.

I hate to say it but your dad is an old school uneducated bigot. And has no right to talk to you about any of this. You cannot expect someone without morality to love you as you deserve to be loved.

Sorry to be so blunt, but it must be stated out in the open. Nothing makes me angrier than parents thinking they have some god-given right to control their kids' sexuality. Nothing is further from the truth.

I live in Utah not by choice, but circumstance. And frankly, I feel bad for you having to live in Tennessee, another state I consider an open sewer of immoral bigotry.

If it is true that "the Lord is coming," all these so-called Christian haters should be the ones repenting. They are the ones who will burn in hell. Not us, my friend; I guarantee you that. It was never us who were in the wrong.

Jesus if he were ever real would hate these so called christian filth mongers and their homophobia. And he would never allow them any access to salvation; they've already committed the most unforgivable sin of not loving their fellow man, the worst possible sin.

your dad is an old school uneducated bigot.

You're not wrong. The ordeal was basically him saying to his friend "You know (friend's name), if I had a son that was 'queer' I don't think I'd mind." His friend tried to basically just agree with him, but it was awkward, mostly because the conversation was apropos of nothing; just brought up out of nowhere.

To this day, I struggle with hearing the word 'queer' as something other than a slur and I feel bad even saying it just because of the negative connotation in which my dad used it. I know that it isn't and that people who identify as such use the word proudly, as well they should, but I've had to hear it as a word that meant something bad my whole life. I'm working on changing that way of thinking, but it's been tough.

To your other point, if Jesus were real, he wouldn't take a single Christian (Save for maybe Dolly Parton) to "heaven."

My boss is a hard core "Christian" that has hot-take opinions on things like immigration. I asked him if "Jesus" would approve of his opinion on that and his exact words were "I don't care what Jesus said." None of them actually believe a word of what they hear at church. They just recite what they hear, a la "bros" that quote ESPN. It's all one big act that they're all in on, but no one wants to break the fourth wall, so to speak.

Not everyone can afford to leave. Should we leave them to die?

You, yourself, haven't left yet. What if we abandoned the south before you had time to move? Oh, maybe you're the Last Good Person in the south, and once you're gone we can leave the rest to suffer! It's their fault for being born in the wrong states, after all. Especially the ones that are going to be born because their mothers were forced to give birth. They deserve it.

I'm not saying anything about whether or not I'm a good person. I'm saying that the number of good people here is a lot lower than you imagine. Pull up the draw bridge, IDGAF, I'll swim if I have to, but the American South is a shit hole that didn't deserve the reconstruction. They've not learned a goddamn thing.

Not everyone can escape. Do they deserve to suffer and die?

And maybe we won't just blow up the bridge. Maybe we build a wall! Why not? You're all evil, we don't need that blight on our society. In fact, why not declare war? Why not kill literally everyone! D o n t y o u a l l d e s e r v e i t? 🙄

Jesus Christ, you must be fun at parties...

The writing has been on the wall for quite a long time. Anybody that stays behind does so at their own risk. I'm not being lynched here. I'll take in others who want to leave when I get to where I'm going.

This isn't a fun topic. You're basically saying "everyone who gets lynched deserves it".

No, I'm not "basically" saying that, but nice strawman attempt.

I have no interest in being a white knight. I'm fucking leaving. I don't have any obligation to financially cover people who can't leave; they have to make that decision.

What I'm saying is that the rest of the people here, the ones actively calling for the deaths of the LGBTQ+ are as useful as taste buds on an asshole.

I will not waste another breath on trying to convince them that they're horrible people. Not even within my own family. When the South inevitably attempts a second civil war, I'll help my LGBTQ+ brothers and sisters should they get to where I am. But they have to find the impetus to do so.

Vibe check

Do you think I'm telling you to stay in the south? I never said that. I just specifically am pissed off by you saying "Nothing in the Bible belt is worth saving." That's it. You're free to leave, it isn't your job to sacrifice your life for voting lol

And it isn't your job to defend the shittiest people on the planet, who by the way want you dead just as much as they do me. The difference is you want to defend the South.

This is an abusive relationship; the first time I get beat is the other person's fault. Every time after that is mine. I'm simply choosing to leave, and you want to victim shame. Bravo.

I got jumped in Daytona Beach in 2021. Three dudes in a pickup truck hopped out and beat the fuck out of me because I was wearing a pride bracelet. I was just able to recall enough of the truck to identify it, but because I didn't get the tag, they never caught the guys. The cops refused to treat it as a hate crime.

I left, even though I couldn't afford to do so. So your description of people not being able to leave doesn't pass the smell test.

Are there places in the North where I won't be safe? Of course. I'm not going to Boston. But I'm leaving the South because of the aforementioned abusive relationship analogy.

Again, I'm in no way obligated to get lynched because other people decide to stay. And believe you me, staying in a place full of people who jerk it at night thinking about killing the LGBTQ is a choice.

I literally never told you to stay. You've been arguing against a strawman of your own creation this entire time.

I don't want to defend "the South", it's a rotten culture that grew out of the Confederacy and there should have been a cultural revolution during Reconstruction. I want to defend the people in the South who are going to get lynched. People like you! You're literally one of the people that you're saying are the shittiest people on the planet. How many millions are just like you?

This broad "they" you keep using is a lot of people and you're just condemning millions of people to death because a lot of them are Christian nationalist crackers.

The fuck are you even taking to me for, then? Hit the bricks. Your opinion is diminishing in value with every reply. I don't have the time to sit and argue with an SJW with a shitty attitude who has done nothing but strawman me to death with hypotheticals.

Someone else responded to my initial comment with something about nukes, do you, for some reason, think that was me? I've not "condemned" anybody. I think you've got me fucked up with somebody else, so take that delightful attitude of yours and direct the vitriol elsewhere.

And, to be very clear, the South is 99% Christian nationalists, particularly in the Bible belt. Zero percent of them are worth saving. None.

And, to be very clear, the South is 99% Christian nationalists, particularly in the Bible belt. Zero percent of them are worth saving. None.

This is why I'm talking to you. This is just made a percentage you made up. The politics are so much more complicated and you're writing off innocent people out of your - justified - personal grievances. Hating your enemies is good (they hate us after all!) but you need to make sure you're correctly identifying your enemies.

The religious affiliations of adult people in Alabama are as follows: Christian – 86%, Non-Christian Faiths – 1%, Other faiths – 1%, Unaffiliated (religious "nones") – 12%

Yikes, right? However, we can subdivide this further. Of those Christians, Evangelicals (the ones chiefly associated with the Christian Nationalist political movement) represent 49% of all Christians. Yikes again! They're almost a majority of all Christians, and Christians are the extremely dominant majority of all people in Alabama. Those are our enemies.

Instead of just giving up on the South we need to unite all the disparate groups against Christian Nationalism and crush them like the cockroaches they are. We can defeat them and we can't just give up and let them win the South.

We need a new Reconstruction.

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