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MAGA Republican Pledges “End of Democracy” to Rabid Cheers at CPAC
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This guy has spent a ton of time claiming that Jan 6th was a false flag and it was all a set up by the feds. He's a fucking total douche and I hate defending him, but this was obviously meant as a joke, poking fun at the people claiming they are trying to destroy democracy, rather than "saying the quiet part out loud."

And this is the thing about comedy: it's likely a test to see if you share the same values. You don't share the same values as Republicans, which is why you don't find their humor funny. . .and vice versa.

He’s a fucking total douche and I hate defending him

So don't.

Yeah the problem is that I like defending truth and being honest more than I dislike defending him.

But apparently that's unpopular. Lol

Giving a fascist unearned benefit of the doubt is not a prerequisite for truth.

This is not about giving the benefit of the doubt, it's about accepting the facts even though I don't like the guy.

His "joke" lines up exactly with things Republicans are openly planning. I'm not buying that this is a joke at all.

Well, if they are openly planning it, then I suggest focusing on the people actually openly planning it. By trying to pretend that this obvious joke is not actually a joke, you call your objectivity and rationality into question.

By trying to pretend that this obvious joke is not actually a joke, you call your objectivity and rationality into question.

lol it's just a joke bro! Can't you take a joooooooooke? God, you must be crazy to think it's anything other than a joke, bro!

God, you must be crazy to think it’s anything other than a joke, bro!

Crazy? No. Just blinded by your own partisanship and with a fragile ego that is unwilling to admit you're wrong. It's okay, I was young and cocksure in my own ignorance too at one point, luckily I've matured out of it.

Keep gaslighting in defense of fascists.

Holy shit this is hilarious.

His twitter and other accounts are filled with him claiming Jan 6th is a false flag and that they are all political prisoners. You need to pretend none of this happened in order to hold the position that this wasn't a joke. You're projecting your own attempts to gaslight. You just hate the facts when they don't line up with your world view. You are more like Posobiec than you are willing to admit.

His twitter and other accounts are filled with him claiming Jan 6th is a false flag and that they are all political prisoners. You need to pretend none of this happened in order to hold the position that this wasn’t a joke.

Like I said, every time a Republican gets pushback, what they said is retroactively a joke. I'm not buying it, and I'm starting to doubt your assertion that you don't like this guy.

Your gaslighting isn't going to change my opinion. I'm going to stop wasting my time with this pointless conversation. It's basically been "nuh uh!" "yuh huh!" for the past few responses.

Your gaslighting isn’t going to change my opinion.

You've long since made it abundantly clear that you aren't going to change your opinion and that you are immune to facts and objective thought. Why you felt the need to explicitly say it, I'm not sure. Maybe you think I'm as dumb as you are and would need this explained.

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No. They say the quiet part aloud and say this shit afterward every time. Stop. It's been a decade. They don't get an inch of grace or benefit of the doubt.

A few years ago, a gay choir put out a song We'll Convert Your Children.

Obviously it was tongue in a cheek, a joke poking fun at people who think gay people are trying to make straight children gay. But never-the-less, there was a bunch of conservative outrage saying that they were admitting to it ("saying the quiet part out loud").

Your criticism sounds equivalently intelligent, because it's effectively the same thing.

I understand your point. In fact there isn't a better parallel on my part, for which you could point this out. You're accurate and I don't disagree with you. Having said that, it's the track record. That choir trolled once. These Nazis troll 24/7 as their identity. So for me personally, that context is more important than the similarity of this one off anecdote. So they don't get chances. Nobody gets infinite chances at anything. Boy who cried wolf at a minimum.

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