De-federated with corporate instances like Threads or not ?

Phil@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world – 33 points –

I think it is really important that we do not let our uniqueness be diluted but am I wrong?

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Google stopped supporting XMPP, which sucked, but did it have any effects beyond that?

Google’s actions just restored XMPP to the same status it would have been if they’d never supported it in the first place.

This is my take. I honestly don't see how Google didn't just extend XMPP well past when it would have naturally died, and they only pulled the plug when it was clear nothing was going to come of it. I acknowledge that this is an unpopular opinion here, but I feel like that's just because this community is very biased when it comes to this kind of thing.

Xmpp via the jabber app was growing organically as a cross platform chat app with first mover advantage. My take is that google stood on the shoulders of the open source giants and used the early adopter community as a free quality and assurance team for Google talk until they couldn't take any more value (users or q&a volunteering). It is possible that jabber could have declining the whole time but the fact that it still exists and has lasted longer than apps killed by Google means that there is more evidence of it not needing Google.